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THere would be more people from other countries here. Is this some kind of kindergarten version of the Socratic method or something? Let me skip to the end of the discussion for you. No matter what the negative effects of immigration might or might not be, there is nothing in the range of possible outcomes that would cause me to say I think it's a good idea to deny people a shot at making a better life for themselves and their family because they talk or look different than me.
Kindergarten might be appropriate, but I'm assuming that you actually have an internally consistent model in mind...it would be interesting to see what it is.
What I'm reading here is that regardless of the downside risk to immigration, some should exist.
OK, probably everyone agrees with that. The strongest opponent to immigration would allow in the occasional scientist, and the La Razans would allow in anyone who looks and sounds like them. I don't see the policy here.
Just what should the limits to immigration be? Simply bitching at racists is not a philosophy.
THere would be more people from other countries here. Is this some kind of kindergarten version of the Socratic method or something? Let me skip to the end of the discussion for you. No matter what the negative effects of immigration might or might not be, there is nothing in the range of possible outcomes that would cause me to say I think it's a good idea to deny people a shot at making a better life for themselves and their family because they talk or look different than me.
Same old race card being tossed out again. I see, so wanting legal immigration in reasonable numbers and objecting to illegal immigration equates to not wanting people here that talk or look different than the average American? You can't be serious since we already have millions of people here of different cultures and looks that are already citizens. Doesn't your side have anything except the race card?
THere would be more people from other countries here. Is this some kind of kindergarten version of the Socratic method or something? Let me skip to the end of the discussion for you. No matter what the negative effects of immigration might or might not be, there is nothing in the range of possible outcomes that would cause me to say I think it's a good idea to deny people a shot at making a better life for themselves and their family because they talk or look different than me.
Race card pulling duly noted. Hot flash for ya, we already have millions of citizens who may look different or talk different and most of us have no problem with them. Is that all you got?
Same old race card being tossed out again. I see, so wanting legal immigration in reasonable numbers and objecting to illegal immigration equates to not wanting people here that talk or look different than the average American? You can't be serious since we already have millions of people here of different cultures and looks that are already citizens. Doesn't your side have anything except the race card?
But you've already admitted to the bolded except you weren't talking about the "average" American you were talking about not looking or talking like the MAJORITY of Americans.
But you've already admitted to the bolded except you aren't talking about the "average" American you were talking about not looking or talking like the MAJORITY of Americans.
That's a lie and you know it! I have never said I object to anyone who looks different or talks different. My objection is to illegal immigration, period! Take your race card and shove it with the rest of your tag team in here.
Kindergarten might be appropriate, but I'm assuming that you actually have an internally consistent model in mind...it would be interesting to see what it is.
What I'm reading here is that regardless of the downside risk to immigration, some should exist.
OK, probably everyone agrees with that. The strongest opponent to immigration would allow in the occasional scientist, and the La Razans would allow in anyone who looks and sounds like them. I don't see the policy here.
Just what should the limits to immigration be? Simply bitching at racists is not a philosophy.
Shouldn't be any limits. Simply a willingness to work hard and play by reasonable laws of the US and the states should be enough.
Immigrants have always contributed to the growth of this country. Every generation goes thru this and every generation gets by.
And I would much rather have immigrants employ Americans in America than give our jobs up to greedy corporations intent on circumventing tax laws to further pad their bank accounts.
I work for a Pakistani engineer, my wife works for an American company started by a German , and my son works for an Italian at a pizza shop.
That's a lie and you know it! I have never said I object to anyone who looks different or talks different. My objection is to illegal immigration, period! Take your race card and shove it with the rest of your tag team in here.
LOL.
You weren't defending that position right here? If it wasn't your position, who were you defending?
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Originally Posted by chicagonut
Why aren't you addressing those in here who claim white Americans are racist for not wanting to lose their majority, culture and language in this country via illegal immigration? I think I just heard a pin drop.
I'll just add this one too:
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Originally Posted by chicagonut
I guess Hispanics being the majority in 22 countries on the Western Hemisphere isn't enough for them. They want to be the majority in this one also. Whitey isn't allowed to be the majority in any nation on this side of the world because it is racist, haven't you heard. What's next, Canada?
THere would be more people from other countries here. Is this some kind of kindergarten version of the Socratic method or something? Let me skip to the end of the discussion for you. No matter what the negative effects of immigration might or might not be, there is nothing in the range of possible outcomes that would cause me to say I think it's a good idea to deny people a shot at making a better life for themselves and their family because they talk or look different than me.
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