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Old 06-17-2011, 09:27 AM
 
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Bloomberg is just pandering.

NYC officials are seriously contemplating laying off teachers. A huge part of the problem with the New York City schools are the massive numbers of illegals in the city who impose huge educational costs on natives. The last thing the city needs is yet another influx of people who want an education at taxpayer expense.
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Old 06-17-2011, 09:33 AM
 
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Liberal nonsense sweeps across the media once again.
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Old 06-17-2011, 02:48 PM
 
Location: Inis Fada
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Bloomberg is just pandering.

NYC officials are seriously contemplating laying off teachers. A huge part of the problem with the New York City schools are the massive numbers of illegals in the city who impose huge educational costs on natives. The last thing the city needs is yet another influx of people who want an education at taxpayer expense.
A big part of the problem is that NYS is having financial problems and has cut back funding to schools. Part of the problem is the pension system for teachers, as well as other state employees. We are feeling that all over the state. Big OUCH. Lots of teachers losing jobs. As much as I do not support illegal immigration, in NYS we can not blame all of the budget problems on them.
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Old 06-17-2011, 04:40 PM
 
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You know, what is really interesting is that Ronald Reagan, the Repulican "darling" was in favor of amnesty, and granted that program in 1986.

Would a candidate now dare to endorse that type of program?
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Old 06-17-2011, 05:19 PM
 
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You know, what is really interesting is that Ronald Reagan, the Repulican "darling" was in favor of amnesty, and granted that program in 1986...
And that a pariah to Republicans, Bill Clinton, signed legislation in 1996 that really put some teeth in immigration law, namely irrevocable lifetime bans from the United States...

Along with President Obama deporting more illegal immigrants than Bush did...
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Old 06-17-2011, 05:28 PM
 
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And that a pariah to Republicans, Bill Clinton, signed legislation in 1996 that really put some teeth in immigration law, namely irrevocable lifetime bans from the United States...

Along with President Obama deporting more illegal immigrants than Bush did...
Obama may be doing that but he isn't deporting non-convicted felons (you know those so-called good-hearted ones). He has ordered HS to only deport convicted felons.
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Old 06-18-2011, 07:38 PM
 
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Bloomberg: U.S. immigration policy is 'national suicide' - Jennifer Epstein - POLITICO.com

More welcoming? I suppose welcoming more immigrants than ALL other countries combined is much too restrictive. Furthermore, how would allowing millions of illegal aliens to remain in this country create more jobs, and spur economic growth?

No, “national suicide” would be to legalize these interlopers, and allow them to continue to suck this country dry.
I agree with Benicar completely. Bloomberg doesn't say how many more immigrants he thinks we should take. I wonder if he would be satisfied when our population equals that of India or China? What doesn't he understand about the adverse impact of population growth on our standard of living and quality of life say nothing about our finite natural resources. Of course, with his billions he will never have any trouble maintaining a standard of living few can aspire to and he can bribe his way to the front of the line for admission to our crowded national parks. We need to reduce the number of legal immigrants to 250,000 per year focused on those who are most likely to help America stay competitive in the global marketplace. Let's look for the applicants with advanced degrees in engineering, medicine, physical science and math. Let's look for the applicants with demonstrated entrepreneurial and other skills that we really need. Adult relatives of citizens should enjoy no priority over others unless they possess these educational and skill requirements.
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Old 06-18-2011, 07:45 PM
 
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Default Illegal Aliens Go Home!

We have 20 million Americans who are out of work. The total of legal and estimated illegal aliens should be inversely proportional to the number of Americans out of work. Everyone should demand that Congress enact mandatory E-verification across the board for all employers, public and private, and all employees, both current and potential new hires. When the illegals can't get work, they will soon depart. They can do a lot of good in their homelands demanding better government, jobs, and anti-poverty measures.
Any country that dumps its impoverished masses on our shores or in our backyard is no friend of ours and they need to be taught a lesson in that regard.
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Old 06-18-2011, 08:03 PM
 
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Default The 14th Amendment is National Suicide

In the U.S., one of the strongest incentives for border violations is the 14th amendment which grants citizenship to anyone who is born in this country. “It is difficult to imagine a more irrational and self-defeating legal system than one which makes unauthorized entry into this country a criminal offense and simultaneously provides perhaps the greatest possible inducement to illegal entry [birthright citizenship].” Originally, the amendment was designed to give full citizenship status to former slaves and their offspring. The authors of the 14th Amendment never would have imagined their words bestowing citizenship on the offspring of illegal aliens, tourists, foreign students, visa overstays, and temporary farm workers. This is one of the central issues related to immigration reform.

The government decries the ineffectiveness of certain measures taken to secure the border but continues to ignore the proven approach of continuous and vigorous internal enforcement based on mandatory E-verification across the board for all employers and all employees. Although some cite an exaggerated multi-billion dollar cost of deporting the millions of illegals, few have considered the obvious alternatives of self-deportation and deportation at the expense of the illegal aliens and their employers. Some say it is not feasible to deport 12-20 million people but logistically speaking that is patently untrue. After the end of WW II 8 million ethic Germans were relocated or repatriated from the Eastern Territories back to the German heartland in less than a year in 1945-6 using a transportation system seriously compromised by the war. We now have modern transportation systems that could handle a much large load. But we don't even need to contemplate a draconian approach to repatriation. We just need to begin to systematically weed out all those who aren't needed for our economy and send them home at their own and their employers' expense. If they came here on a shoestring, they are better off now and can certainly afford the ticket home.

Before they can hire any foreign workers whether they are here already or not, employers must present irrefutable proof that they cannot fill their jobs with citizen labor by offering a living wage,as defined by local unions and the Dept of Labor, and by offering a clear hiring preference.

Employers whose record shows a failure to verify before hiring must be subjected to repeated raid and roundups as well as stiff fines and jail time until they get the message. We cannot let these miscreant employers get away by paying substandard wages under the table while competing unfairly with honest employers. Bloomberg is a national disgrace.
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Old 06-18-2011, 08:10 PM
 
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Quite right. All government retirement systems must be converted to defined contribution plans if government at all levels is to escape bankruptcy. The public employees unions have to go the way of the do do bird and never should have been permitted in the first place. They support the politicians who are in their pockets and are willing to grant whatever they ask regardless of the condition of government finances. Follow Wisconsin Gov.Scott Walker's lead. Convert to 401ks or 403bs and allow no retirement pay until they reach the Social Security guidelines with comparable reduction in retirement pay for early retirement before age 65 or whatever SS requires.
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