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Old 06-23-2011, 12:03 AM
 
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Would you say for someone entering another culture, it is disrespectful not to learn the language of the culture they are entering?
If a nation has no official language, as is the case with the USA, then how does one know which language to learn?

And for what it's worth, as much as English is the de facto official language, Spanish is the de facto other official language.

After all, if a country like Canada has English and French as its official language, why can't the USA have English and Spanish? There are a hell of a lot more Hispanic people living in the US than there are French in Canada!

That seems only fair, you know for a country that believes in freedom and equality for everyone.

 
Old 06-23-2011, 02:46 AM
 
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If a nation has no official language, as is the case with the USA, then how does one know which language to learn?
How about the language the nation's constitution is written in?
 
Old 06-23-2011, 07:00 AM
 
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After all, if a country like Canada has English and French as its official language, why can't the USA have English and Spanish? There are a hell of a lot more Hispanic people living in the US than there are French in Canada!
In percentage terms the ratio of French speakers in Canada is a lot higher than the ratio of Spanish speakers in the U.S.
 
Old 06-23-2011, 07:37 AM
 
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Would you say for someone entering another culture, it is disrespectful not to learn the language of the culture they are entering?
No.
 
Old 06-23-2011, 08:27 AM
 
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No.
Then if they don't want to assimilate to our language and culture then why even come here?
 
Old 06-23-2011, 08:29 AM
 
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Then if they don't want to assimilate to our language and culture then why even come here?
Economic opportunity? To see some distant relatives? I don't concern myself with things like this. I live in Philly most of the year, but I don't think people who arrive should be forced to eat cheesesteaks and root for the Phillies. These are personal choices that every person is free to make.
 
Old 06-23-2011, 08:30 AM
 
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If a nation has no official language, as is the case with the USA, then how does one know which language to learn?

And for what it's worth, as much as English is the de facto official language, Spanish is the de facto other official language.

After all, if a country like Canada has English and French as its official language, why can't the USA have English and Spanish? There are a hell of a lot more Hispanic people living in the US than there are French in Canada!

That seems only fair, you know for a country that believes in freedom and equality for everyone.
English is the official language.
 
Old 06-23-2011, 08:31 AM
 
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Then if they don't want to assimilate to our language and culture then why even come here?
Agreed.

Why come here to pick a fight?
 
Old 06-23-2011, 08:31 AM
 
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English is the official language.
My bad, we didn't realize you thought that.

No, it's not. You stand corrected.
 
Old 06-23-2011, 08:33 AM
 
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Except that it's not, so you actually moved to "de facto" language, aka "the language that almost everyone speaks." But obviously if people want to learn others, or if schools feel it'd be helpful, then there shouldn't be any barriers to them doing so within reason.
I didn't move to anything. Both statements are correct. English is our de facto national language and most Americans do speak it.

As I said, if someone wants to learn another langauge that is their choice but no way should any American be "required" to learn a particular one like Spanish. Which is the only one being pushed in this country.
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