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Old 06-22-2011, 03:28 PM
 
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They do not have rights, and they are being punished for just doing something we, Americans, do legally, which is just living out in the open. This is unconstitutional. The constitution says we must not discriminate against anybody. Chastising a person because he/she does not have documents is discrimination. I don't get how many of you, especially conservatives like to talk about big government, and how the government takes away our freedom, but guess what? Immigration enforcement is more government.


The constitution protects those who are within the US jurisdiction. It does not say it is exclusive to those who are American. In fact, the constitution has nothing to do with the immigration.
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Old 06-22-2011, 03:32 PM
 
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So I guess the people in prisons, you know the criminals are also the underclass too... they are just doing what they need to do to get what they want... why are you discriminating against them? Chastising a person of a criminal background because they don't want to follow the rules is discrimination.... making them go to jail is big government, you don't like big government do you? The constitution protects criminals in the US jurisdiction and they don't talk about penalizing criminals... so we need to let out all the criminals..... /////////end sarcasm
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Old 06-22-2011, 03:35 PM
 
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So I guess the people in prisons, you know the criminals are also the underclass too... they are just doing what they need to do to get what they want... why are you discriminating against them? Chastising a person of a criminal background because they don't want to follow the rules is discrimination.... making them go to jail is big government, you don't like big government do you? The constitution protects criminals in the US jurisdiction and they don't talk about penalizing criminals... so we need to let out all the criminals..... /////////end sarcasm

Comparing apples to oranges. I see.
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Old 06-22-2011, 03:37 PM
 
Location: Sacramento, Ca
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I think this belongs in the illegal immigration forum.


http://www.city-data.com/forum/illegal-immigration/
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Old 06-22-2011, 03:41 PM
 
Location: The Bay
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Illegal immigration itself is a crime and should be punished... the ethical problem with the way the American media handles illegal immigration is that certain ethnic groups get a media pass for it and others don't.
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Old 06-22-2011, 03:44 PM
 
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Illegal immigration itself is a crime and should be punished... the ethical problem with the way the American media handles illegal immigration is that certain ethnic groups get a media pass for it and others don't.

Being in the US undocumented is not a crime in itself.
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Old 06-22-2011, 04:42 PM
 
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Comparing apples to oranges. I see.
Why is it? They too have broken the law.
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Old 06-22-2011, 04:46 PM
 
Location: John & Ken-ville
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They do not have rights, and they are being punished for just doing something we, Americans, do legally, which is just living out in the open. This is unconstitutional. The constitution says we must not discriminate against anybody. Chastising a person because he/she does not have documents is discrimination. I don't get how many of you, especially conservatives like to talk about big government, and how the government takes away our freedom, but guess what? Immigration enforcement is more government.


The constitution protects those who are within the US jurisdiction. It does not say it is exclusive to those who are American. In fact, the constitution has nothing to do with the immigration.
No. When foreigners from other countries are here they are also subject to our laws as foreign nationals. Our laws say you don't enter illegally. If you do you are subject to deportation. They should not be here. PERIOD.
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Old 06-22-2011, 04:46 PM
 
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Being in the US undocumented is not a crime in itself.
Crossing the boarder without border control inspection is.
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Old 06-22-2011, 04:48 PM
 
Location: John & Ken-ville
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Being in the US undocumented is not a crime in itself.
Yes it is a crime. They broke the law by not having the legal right to be in the USA. That means to enter with a valid passport and visa.

It is a crime when they work here. It is a crime when they commit identity fraud. It is a crime when they have babies in order to defraud the US taxpayer to stay in the USA.

They broke the first law by entering illegally, broke another law by staying, broke another law by working without legal permission.

They are criminals.
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