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Old 06-24-2011, 10:29 AM
 
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Source that data please, with public schools that teach primarily in Spanish for the majority of their classwork...

Otherwise "both languages" in the same school sounds like moving students from Spanish to English...
Or some of these schools are requiring that our English speaking students learn Spanish. "Moving students from English to Spanish".
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Old 06-24-2011, 10:30 AM
 
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Or some of these schools are requiring that our English speaking students learn Spanish.
And math. And history. And science.
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Old 06-24-2011, 10:30 AM
 
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Current "laws" allow for over a million foreigners to be admitted to the United States each year...

If you mean "illegal aliens", say "illegal aliens"...
For the umpteenth time, this is the ILLEGAL Immigration forum, and we are discussing illegal aliens. Furthermore, do you actually not understand the difference between a legal immigrant and a foreign interloper? Try reading my posts, rather than focusing on disagreeing with me. You’re making yourself appear dimwitted, and I am sure that is not your intention.
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Old 06-24-2011, 10:32 AM
 
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For the umpteenth time, this is the ILLEGAL Immigration forum, and we are discussing illegal aliens. Furthermore, do you actually not understand the difference between a legal immigrant and a foreign interloper? Try reading my posts, rather than focusing on disagreeing with me. You’re making yourself appear dimwitted, and I am sure that is not your intention.
Seriously? When you say "foreign interloper," the term obviously could apply just as well to non-illegals. That's his whole point. He doesn't appear dimwitted, he appears like he actually cares about the literal meaning of words.
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Old 06-24-2011, 10:43 AM
 
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We were talking about younger people who ARE fluent, so they HAVE in fact learned the language.

You say that they DEMAND that you "accommodate" them in their language.

Define both "demand" and "accommodate" in those contexts?
I am referring to the prevailing mindset of Hispanic illegal aliens. And, yes, they not only "demand" to be "accommodated" in Spanish, they "demand" we legalize their status. If you aren’t aware of their numerous protest marches, and their indignant behavior when a citizen dares to not understand them, you are obviously new to the issue of illegal immigration.

For future reference, my comments refer to illegal aliens exclusively, unless I specifically mention legal immigration.
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Old 06-24-2011, 10:48 AM
 
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Again, all I was asking for was a definition of both "demand" and "accommodate." So far the only reason your side has provided for saying they "demand" we learn Spanish is that it's required at schools. Could you clarify precisely what you're referring to? Was there a protest march dedicated to demanding that Americans all learn Spanish or something?
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Old 06-24-2011, 10:52 AM
 
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Seriously? When you say "foreign interloper," the term obviously could apply just as well to non-illegals. That's his whole point. He doesn't appear dimwitted, he appears like he actually cares about the literal meaning of words.
A legal immigrant is NOT an interloper. A legal immigrant is here with the permission of our government.

in·ter·lop·er (ntr-lpr)
n.

One that intrudes in a place, situation, or activity

interloper - definition of interloper by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.

interloper
n.

meddler, trespasser, encroacher, alien; see intruder.

interloper - synonyms for interloper
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Old 06-24-2011, 10:52 AM
 
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Well, maybe she means "demand" as in "supply and demand." People who speak Spanish may prefer to patronize business that offer Spanish-language services. Thus, business who want to "supply" this "demand" may "demand" people who speak Spanish from the "supply" of potential employees. If they don't want to, though, they don't have to. Hell, I think it'd be neat to go to a German restaurant and have the whole waitstaff fluent in German so I could practice. Thus, there is a "demand" for Americans to learn German so that they can make such a place.
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Old 06-24-2011, 10:54 AM
 
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Again, all I was asking for was a definition of both "demand" and "accommodate." So far the only reason your side has provided for saying they "demand" we learn Spanish is that it's required at schools. Could you clarify precisely what you're referring to? Was there a protest march dedicated to demanding that Americans all learn Spanish or something?
I have already explained my position. If you want a "definition" of demand and accommodate, I suggest you Google.
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Old 06-24-2011, 10:54 AM
 
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A legal immigrant is NOT an interloper. A legal immigrant is here with the permission of our government.

in·ter·lop·er (ntr-lpr)
n.

One that intrudes in a place, situation, or activity

interloper - definition of interloper by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.

interloper
n.

meddler, trespasser, encroacher, alien; see intruder.

interloper - synonyms for interloper
Only one of those given definitions cannot be used to literally describe legal immigrants, and that's trespasser. Now, if you wanted to get less literal, trespasser works for them too. Of course, if you want to get MORE literal, illegal immigrants aren't trespassing in the legal sense.
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