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Old 06-27-2011, 06:48 PM
 
Location: California
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I must be doing it all wrong! I've paid taxes all my life, never missed a mortgage payment, buy my own food, paid my own way in college, and pay really huge insurance premiums with a very high deductible. Worked two jobs when one wasn't enough. I also donate time to our local library and worked hunger projects and now they want to take SS and Medicare from seniors. My Grandpa really failed to teach me how use the system so I just don't know any better.

How much would illegals get in Australia, for example?
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Old 06-27-2011, 06:49 PM
 
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One of the qualifiers CIS used was for "free/low cost lunch" programs in public schools...

Don't all kids below certain family income levels get those?...

I wouldn't define the time that my family qualified solely for that as "receiving welfare"...
The article is long but easy to read about percentages of illegal immigrants getting several forms of welfare and compares this to legal immigrant percetages, and it states both illegal and legal immigrants have significantly higher percentages of welfare than natives.

It mentions illegal immigrant adult welfare as well as that for their children. It's too darn expensive for us to support illegals any longer, that's the whole point.
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Old 06-27-2011, 06:53 PM
 
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I think the point is the funding of the organization that does those studies and their agenda.
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Old 06-27-2011, 06:59 PM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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The article is long but easy to read about percentages of illegal immigrants getting several forms of welfare and compares this to legal immigrant percetages, and it states both illegal and legal immigrants have significantly higher percentages of welfare than natives.

It mentions illegal immigrant adult welfare as well as that for their children. It's too darn expensive for us to support illegals any longer, that's the whole point.
The point is if CIS defines a family (like mine) as "receiving welfare", when it is only "low/no cost" lunches, the data is incorrect...
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Old 06-27-2011, 06:59 PM
 
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I must be doing it all wrong! I've paid taxes all my life, never missed a mortgage payment, buy my own food, paid my own way in college, and pay really huge insurance premiums with a very high deductible. Worked two jobs when one wasn't enough. I also donate time to our local library and worked hunger projects and now they want to take SS and Medicare from seniors. My Grandpa really failed to teach me how use the system so I just don't know any better.

How much would illegals get in Australia, for example?
Sometimes you're using the system without even knowing it. Seniors right now are receiving more in SS than they pay in. If you own a home, you received a substantial tax credit. Wealthier people benefit from the system quite a bit.
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Old 06-27-2011, 07:04 PM
 
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The point is if CIS defines a family (like mine) as "receiving welfare", when it is only "low/no cost" lunches, the data is incorrect...
I received low cost lunches as a child too because I had a large family despite not being on welfare, etc.
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Old 06-27-2011, 07:20 PM
 
Location: California
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Sometimes you're using the system without even knowing it. Seniors right now are receiving more in SS than they pay in. If you own a home, you received a substantial tax credit. Wealthier people benefit from the system quite a bit.
Sorry, but no SS and no substantial tax credit...we pay well over $3,000/yr for our condo. No free food or health care but pay for the freeloaders.


Just average working middle-class people getting taken to the cleaners.
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Old 06-27-2011, 07:22 PM
 
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Sorry, but no SS and no substantial tax credit...we pay well over $3,000/yr for our condo. No free food or health care but pay for the freeloaders.


Just average working middle-class people getting taken to the cleaners.
Hey, you could always quit your jobs and get on the welfare dole that apparently is so kush.
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Old 06-27-2011, 07:26 PM
 
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Sorry, but no SS and no substantial tax credit...we pay well over $3,000/yr for our condo. No free food or health care but pay for the freeloaders.


Just average working middle-class people getting taken to the cleaners.
You do get a homeowners tax credit, correct? And you will eventually get SS? And, of course, just a few years until subsidized health care.
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Old 06-27-2011, 07:27 PM
 
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The point is if CIS defines a family (like mine) as "receiving welfare", when it is only "low/no cost" lunches, the data is incorrect...
Welfare programs certainly include the free lunches and breakfasts. If you can't feed 'em why breed 'em? Why have children you have no ability to even feed? No wonder you identify with the illegals who claim they come to the USA because they can't feed their many children back home in their own country and see the USA as a big generous welfare office.

But yes - some people want to pretend that welfare is only the one big cash giveaway program called TANF when welfare really includes all the many government handouts like Medicaid, food stamps, SSI, WIC, free government provided housing, free school meals, etc, etc.
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