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Old 06-28-2011, 11:56 PM
 
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The inflows of drugs into the US and the outflows of cash and weapons is a serious problem, but I doubt ethnicity has a major role to play in causing or fixing the problem.
The DEA and head of Homeland Security state that the Mexican drug cartels are in every single state now, and they are tied into Mexican gangs here and there. Used to be a lot of whites in American drug trade here, but now it's all Mexican based and their cartels protect their turf in Mexico and here. One out of four illegals comes here with a prior criminal record in Mexico and this has been repeated on news many times. More than one out of four comes here and commits crimes. We need to get them all out of this country, and stop using our law enforcement system for corrupt profit from the Mexican drug trade.

 
Old 06-29-2011, 12:22 AM
 
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The DEA and head of Homeland Security state that the Mexican drug cartels are in every single state now, and they are tied into Mexican gangs here and there. Used to be a lot of whites in American drug trade here, but now it's all Mexican based and their cartels protect their turf in Mexico and here. One out of four illegals comes here with a prior criminal record in Mexico and this has been repeated on news many times. More than one out of four comes here and commits crimes. We need to get them all out of this country, and stop using our law enforcement system for corrupt profit from the Mexican drug trade.
Drug trafficking is what a whole lot of it is about. How else could the Mexican cartels have become so rich, so greedy, without their vast distribution networks they've established throughout the USA. How else could they get their drugs quickly from Juarez warehouses into every American city and town if it weren't for the millions of illegals and their communities which provide cover for the traffickers and drug dealers.

The open border most definitely benefits the cartels which are now waging a very bloody war with one another over which group controls the border and these distribution networks.

Every drug user knows if they want cocaine or whatever kind of drug that the Spanish speaking side of town is where they're most easily obtained.

And yes, the total lack of documentation and identification and background checks obviously helps the criminal element.
 
Old 06-29-2011, 12:49 AM
 
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The ironic part is that if criminal behavior by illegal immigrants was truly one of your worries the best way to combat it would be to allow open immigration. Now when you catch people that are sneaking into the country there is a much greater chance they are trying to hide something. Additionally it would be much easier to properly document people. Making someone a "criminal" for wanting to make a better life for themselves and their family just muddles the issue.
No. The best way to control the criminals who now control the border would be to take back the border from them. The cartels control the border because the US government fails to do it's job.

We have open immigration right now - ilegal of course but it's about as open as it can be. Someone wants over the border, all they have to do is be smuggled over by criminal organizations, or get a shopping pass from the consulate and never return home.

Trying to solve the problem by not having the laws at all would be like saying we'll reduce traffic accidents by allowing people to drive however they like, at any speed they like and just have no traffic laws.
 
Old 06-29-2011, 01:26 AM
 
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No, you're just trying to disparage illegal immigrants by insinuating that they could be vicious drug dealing fugitives THAT COULD LIVE NEXT DOOR!!! Fox News: We inform, you decide.
No, he's just posting facts, if you take it that he is disparaging illegal aliens that's your problem..........

If the facts show 99% of the most wanted are hispanic, oh well.........
 
Old 06-29-2011, 01:31 AM
 
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Making someone a "criminal" for wanting to make a better life for themselves and their family just muddles the issue.
They cross the border illegally?

Hmmmm Then they are criminals no matter what excuses they use....

If the illegal aliens spent half as much time finding work in their home countries as they do thinking up excuses on why they invaded America..........
 
Old 06-29-2011, 01:36 AM
 
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The ironic part is that if criminal behavior by illegal immigrants was truly one of your worries the best way to combat it would be to allow open immigration. Now when you catch people that are sneaking into the country there is a much greater chance they are trying to hide something. Additionally it would be much easier to properly document people. Making someone a "criminal" for wanting to make a better life for themselves and their family just muddles the issue.
Damn, you must mean "open borders". right ?
What an original idea. Did you just think that up ??
They just came for a better life for themselves & all
thier famlies.....and state benefits and social security
fruad, fake id's,food stamps and on and on add nausea .
Nothing "criminal" there. ROLMAO And they should be allowed to bring 5 kilos of coke (u know, walking
around money) until they get that sec. 8 housing.
You don't work for the ACLU do you?? lol
 
Old 06-29-2011, 02:01 AM
 
Location: Phoenix
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You realise the people on that list would make up a fraction of a percent of illegal immigrants which number about 10 million in America right now, right?

It would be like me posting a link to Megan's law website, saying that if you can find a child molester living near you that you are a child molester too.
Thats the biggest straw man Ive seen in a while,
GGotb any "RED Herring's" ??
 
Old 06-29-2011, 02:05 AM
 
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At least the illegals picking working in the fields dont need to worry about birds the amount of strawmen that are left lying around here.

Wow, did not expect to post and find the term straw man posted before mine by the very guy who just straw manned someone else AND he does so while picking out a post that isnt a straw man. Epic.
 
Old 06-29-2011, 03:56 AM
Yac
 
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Despite what some might be thinking, Hispanic is not a synonym of illegal. This thread is hardly an illegal immigration issue, plus it's degraded into the usual fighting.
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