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08-08-2007, 10:08 AM
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Illegal children in public schools in the US
What would you propose we do about illegals who have children in the school system?
I hear a lot about not allowing them an education, but I don't think we want them on the streets either.
In CA they tried to pass a bill that would not allow illegals access to the ps system, but it was deemed unconstitutional, so it was stopped before it was started.
Ideas?
Dawn
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08-08-2007, 12:44 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DawnW
What would you propose we do about illegals who have children in the school system?
I hear a lot about not allowing them an education, but I don't think we want them on the streets either.
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No, we certainly don't want them on American streets.
Illegal aliens, regardless of their age, need to be escorted across the border. Using whatever force is necessary. They are criminals.
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08-08-2007, 01:11 PM
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Send Mexico a bill for $10,000.00 per student per year. If Mexico wont pay the bill then send them back to Mexico.
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08-08-2007, 03:20 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DawnW
What would you propose we do about illegals who have children in the school system?
I hear a lot about not allowing them an education, but I don't think we want them on the streets either.
In CA they tried to pass a bill that would not allow illegals access to the ps system, but it was deemed unconstitutional, so it was stopped before it was started.
Ideas?
Dawn
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Ship them, and their parents back to Mexico. Only US Citizens should be able to attend our schools. I think that should be true of even private schools and institutions such as Harvard, Yale, MIT etc.
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08-08-2007, 03:39 PM
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If one were to go to the border south of Columbus, NM following the school busses then one will see the little kiddies crossing the border from Mexico into the U.S and getting on the busses and then going to school in Deming, NM. This also happens in parts of AZ.
I can show you at the border in El Paso school children doing the exact same thing. There are also a great number of college age kids that cross over the border into El Paso to go to college in El Paso and all at a cost that you will not get unless you live in the state of Texas. Don't ya just love it? This is and has been what our government has been doing for a huge number of years now.
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08-08-2007, 04:53 PM
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There are many, many illegal aliens in the US who have children who were born here and are US citizens.
Personally, I think the parents should be deported and given the choice of taking thier children with them or leaving them with a friend or relative who is here legally, but ONLY if that friend or relative does not recieve any 'welfare benefits' nor be eligible to collect them if they take the children. Otherwise, the children could be put up for adoption.
The illegal parents knew when they came here illegally that deportation was a possiblity and should not be able to use thier citizen children to stay here.
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08-09-2007, 10:53 AM
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I think I would agree, as long as they are here, to allow the children to stay in school, they may just learn something. Not a bad idea either, just kate, to have them stay with responsible and self sufficient legal family members for a better education than they would get elsewhere. Then, just maybe, they could become law abiding contributing legal US citizens as adults?
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08-09-2007, 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by lilypad
I think I would agree, as long as they are here, to allow the children to stay in school, they may just learn something. Not a bad idea either, just kate, to have them stay with responsible and self sufficient legal family members for a better education than they would get elsewhere. Then, just maybe, they could become law abiding contributing legal US citizens as adults?
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That's not a bad idea. The only problem is the schools are overcrowded and the parents of these children are paying into the system. Would you be willing to pay more in taxes to let them stay in school?
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08-09-2007, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by lilypad
I think I would agree, as long as they are here, to allow the children to stay in school, they may just learn something.
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Is this meant to say that they are slower than American kids?
Quote:
Originally Posted by lilypad
Not a bad idea either, just kate, to have them stay with responsible and self sufficient legal family members for a better education than they would get elsewhere. Then, just maybe, they could become law abiding contributing legal US citizens as adults?
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It’s wrong to assume that every illegal immigrant parent will be unable to provide a good moral education to their kids. If a parent gets a speeding ticket or inhales at some moment in their lives, does that mean his or her children will grow up to be criminals or drug traffickers? I don’t think so. For most illegals, crossing the border, and by doing so crossing the line, is not an easy moral choice; they do it out of necessity or, in many cases, out of desperation. And, if you ask me, they really pay for that “crime” even if they don’t get “caught”—they endanger their lives by crossing the border; they are exploited, abused and humiliated; they are scorned; they have to live looking over their shoulders; they’re not able to return to their homeland and families for a long time; etc.
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08-09-2007, 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by davidt1
That's not a bad idea. The only problem is the schools are overcrowded and the parents of these children are paying into the system. Would you be willing to pay more in taxes to let them stay in school?
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In Texas, property tax on real estate is what pays the school bills. Anyone who lives on land either pays taxes directly as the owner or indirectly as a tenant. So even the illegals who are renting in the state are paying for schools. As such, I believe they have just as much right to send their children to school as the unemployed citizen living in wholly subsidized section-8 housing that pays little or nothing toward the school district.
I do not believe that district residency rules should be ignored as in the case of the children crossing the border from Mexico to attend school in the US and then returning home at the end of the day. They and their parents are not contributing to the funding of the school and should not be permitted to attend. This is not a legal problem, it is a problem with the school enforcing it's own rules and following up on paperwork submitted to them by parents. At best it may be a fraud issue, but it is not an immigration issue.
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