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Old 07-08-2011, 10:45 AM
 
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Originally Posted by SitNSnooze2 View Post
They're all taking the jobs.
They're all unemployed leeching on welfare.

They're all crossing the border with ease.
They're all waiting to flood in if we remove quotas.

They're all refusing to assimilate.
They're all speaking Spanish to each other, so I refuse to accept them.

They're all somehow destroying my precious culture.
They're all somehow bad for clinging to their precious culture.
Glad to know you understand the situation so well.

Welcome to the board.

 
Old 07-08-2011, 10:50 AM
 
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If I could, I would feed every hungry child in the world. But, I canít. Neither can this country. I am outraged that our generous welfare benefits incentivize illegal immigration. I find it reprehensible that so many come here pregnant, or deliberately give birth, and expect U.S. taxpayers to support their children. Iím sorry, but with our limited resources, our priority must be the children of citizens.
That's fine, I can follow those lines of thought. Financial obligations, community obligations, political obligations, etc. But can you agree that framing food stamps for one child over another as a "moral obligation" is a little hyperbolic?

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If illegal aliens cannot support their children, they should practice some form of reliable birth control, or abstain. After all, a large percentage of these children are born to teens who should not be sexually active, or unwed adults. Itís disgusting to see people on welfare with several children, and the woman is again pregnant. It is time for their countries of origin to take care of them. As a taxpayer, I am sick of it.
I still see this as mostly a poor people on welfare issue that logically you could have with citizens.
 
Old 07-08-2011, 10:51 AM
 
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These kids are Americans.
Aiding their illegal parents
 
Old 07-08-2011, 11:02 AM
 
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I don't know where you got that ludicrous idea, but it is not the responsibility of one country's taxpayers to feed all the children in the world.
That's not what the post you quoted said.


To anyone who says we can't afford this sort of aid: put a dollar figure on it. Tell me how it compares to, say, spending on Iraq/Afghanistan.
 
Old 07-08-2011, 11:06 AM
 
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That's not what the post you quoted said.


To anyone who says we can't afford this sort of aid: put a dollar figure on it. Tell me how it compares to, say, spending on Iraq/Afghanistan.
Seriously. We can't afford to bomb all the children of the world, but, gosh darn it, that won't stop us from trying!
 
Old 07-08-2011, 11:10 AM
 
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That's fine, I can follow those lines of thought. Financial obligations, community obligations, political obligations, etc. But can you agree that framing food stamps for one child over another as a "moral obligation" is a little hyperbolic?
No, I donít think hyperbole is involved at all. Tell me, would you consider it a moral obligation to deny food to your children to feed your neighborís kids? We cannot sustain this level of massive illegal immigration, particularly, given the high birthrate among illegal aliens, and the high percentage of illegals collecting welfare. We simply canít. It is way past time to end this abuse.

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I still see this as mostly a poor people on welfare issue that logically you could have with citizens.
But, you must realize there are millions of poor in this country who have no legal right be here, and are draining us dry. You canít compare the needs of citizens with those of illegal aliens. Citizens, regardless of socioeconomic status, have a right to live in this country. Illegal aliens do not.
 
Old 07-08-2011, 11:18 AM
 
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That's not what the post you quoted said.


To anyone who says we can't afford this sort of aid: put a dollar figure on it. Tell me how it compares to, say, spending on Iraq/Afghanistan.
Our financial involvement in Iraq, Afghanistan, or any other country has no relevance to the issue of illegal immigration. Other than, they are ALL draining us dry. So, since we are squandering billions in foreign lands, we should also squander billions here on illegal aliens? And, yes, illegal immigration is costing us BILLIONS annually. Footing the bill for their K-12 education alone is bankrupting school districts. Sadly, they don’t even appreciate it, as evidenced by their high dropout rate.
 
Old 07-08-2011, 11:26 AM
 
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Our financial involvement in Iraq, Afghanistan, or any other country has no relevance to the issue of illegal immigration. Other than, they are ALL draining us dry. So, since we are squandering billions in foreign lands, we should also squander billions here on illegal aliens? And, yes, illegal immigration is costing us BILLIONS annually. Footing the bill for their K-12 education alone is bankrupting school districts. Sadly, they don’t even appreciate it, as evidenced by their high dropout rate.
What a great argument

Since we're already spending trillions on our wars, what does another hundred billion matter? That's financial responsibility for you
 
Old 07-08-2011, 11:48 AM
 
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Food benefits for children are routed through illegal immigrants.
A lot of us in here have been saying that this has been happening for years. We'd say it in this forum and "pro-illegal" people would just respond with, "Prove it," or "Illegal immigrants can't get welfare." LOL One day, I went to the "Food Stamp Office" to ask them how do they verify that someone isn't here illegally and the worker said that as long as the child was born here there is nothing that they can do. Our food stamp office had about 7 out of 10 people who were from South of the Border. I professionally would ask a worker some questions that I had because I am currently doing research on a topic. There were families of 3 children on average. I wondered how many people are coming into the country whether legally or illegally knowing that they do not have enough money to support themselves and yet, having tons of babies. If you are coming into the country and ending up on welfare then that is NOT a good thing.

People act like it is wrong to state the obvious. Why? When they release statistics from studies that are done and they categorize us based on our race, why is it so wrong to call out illegal immigrants for being the majority in our welfare offices? I've been there at least three times to talk to workers for work and curiosity relating to immigration and welfare and everytime there is an overwhelmi.

It makes me pretty disappointed that we are in a serious financial crisis in the U.S. and tons of money is going to illegal immigrants and they are eating good. I won't reveal details about my experience, but I know that currently there are tons of families/households that are abusing the food stamp system. They are getting hundreds of dollars a month. Yet, our politicians want to go at each other about spending, but the same politicians that do that are ignoring illegal immigration or trying to make it easier for illegal immigrants to stay here.
 
Old 07-08-2011, 11:50 AM
 
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AND? All children shouldn't go hungry not matter where there from or who their parents are?? What are you complaining about...The worlds children being fed is all our responsibility..
I'll gladly feed people, as long as they aren't using and abusing me. That's the thing, most people don't mind helping others, but illegal immigration is a JOKE. It's out-of-hand.
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