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Old 07-14-2011, 02:15 AM
 
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And, what proof do you have that he would never be released? Plus, if he was that crazy and evil, unless they kept him in solitary confinement, he could kill while in prison. Hmmm. . . what would be his punishment then -- another life sentence?
In the bold: I didn't know you had a soft spot for other death row criminals.

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There has been a great deal of analysis and commentary on the Leal case -- some of it better than the rest -- but at heart, Thursday's dramatic events are simple to explain. The Court's majority went out of its way to allow Texas to proceed with an execution, even though the state would have been only minimally harmed in waiting a few more months (or even a few more years) to proceed. The Court did so despite broad concerns, expressed by officials in both of the other two branches of government, that the Leal's execution now would harm the interests of the United States abroad. And, by doing so, the Court compounded rather than solved an important legal problem raised by the Leal case.

Just because Congress has consistently failed to do the right thing here doesn't mean that the Court had to follow its lead. The result is a big, black mark on the face American justice now shows to the rest of the world.
Humberto Leal Garcia: The Supreme Court Makes a Bad Situation Worse - Andrew Cohen - Politics - The Atlantic

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Aside from my views on capital punishment, I do realize that each state has its own laws and it would eventually be whatever the Texas courts decided on the case. This article illustrates how if the courts had abided by international law, it would have only been a matter of time and they would have achieved the same results. I could care less about the rapist. You all don't understand that your view of "the law is the law" doesn't hold water. Thanks for debating. I proved my point.
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Old 07-14-2011, 05:48 AM
 
Location: Charleston, SC
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He wasn't executed because he was an illegal Mexican immigrant. He was executed because the evidence overwhelmingly showed that he raped and tortured a 16 year old girl and then bashed her brains in with a chunk of asphalt. That's the main point that we should be getting across when we discuss about who's at fault in this. His parents should be proud for defending such a person...
Pretty much, and he basically admitted to all of it during the proceeding after lying about it for years.

In the end a person who did a horrible thing is gone... it's hard to find a problem with that.
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Old 07-14-2011, 05:56 AM
 
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That doesn't say what you think it says.
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Old 07-14-2011, 08:19 AM
 
Location: Italy
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In the end a person who did a horrible thing is gone... it's hard to find a problem with that.
Only that it's a very irresponsible statement.


Peace,
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Old 07-19-2011, 07:52 AM
 
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The crime happened in 1994 and justice was served in 2011? That musta been one long trial.
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Old 07-19-2011, 07:59 AM
 
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In the bold: I didn't know you had a soft spot for other death row criminals.



Humberto Leal Garcia: The Supreme Court Makes a Bad Situation Worse - Andrew Cohen - Politics - The Atlantic

Here is your answer regarding a possible release:

Aside from my views on capital punishment, I do realize that each state has its own laws and it would eventually be whatever the Texas courts decided on the case. This article illustrates how if the courts had abided by international law, it would have only been a matter of time and they would have achieved the same results. I could care less about the rapist. You all don't understand that your view of "the law is the law" doesn't hold water. Thanks for debating. I proved my point.
Except the state courts are not under international laws.

The Constitution of the United States does not have in it anywhere about that international law. It spells out the limitations of the federal government when it comes to the states.

All those illegals who want to ruled under international law need to leave the USA. We have the Constitution as our law.
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Old 07-19-2011, 08:45 AM
 
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Except the state courts are not under international laws.

The Constitution of the United States does not have in it anywhere about that international law. It spells out the limitations of the federal government when it comes to the states.

All those illegals who want to ruled under international law need to leave the USA. We have the Constitution as our law.
That's great, I mean we're the United States. We all know that following international laws is an option since we are the strongest country on Earth. But we enter treaties and sign international agreements for mutual benefit, so abiding by certain international laws, while not mandated by the Constitution, is perfectly standard and ultimately beneficial.
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Old 07-19-2011, 09:08 AM
 
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That's great, I mean we're the United States. We all know that following international laws is an option since we are the strongest country on Earth. But we enter treaties and sign international agreements for mutual benefit, so abiding by certain international laws, while not mandated by the Constitution, is perfectly standard and ultimately beneficial.
So at what point were those who sign said treaties given the power to surrender our sovereignty?
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Old 07-19-2011, 09:26 AM
 
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So at what point were those who sign said treaties given the power to surrender our sovereignty?
notsureifserious
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Old 07-19-2011, 09:27 AM
 
Location: Staten Island, NY
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Al this back and forth, back and forth....THE GUY'S DEAD AWREDDY!!
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