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Old 07-10-2011, 04:34 PM
 
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Not a stormfront link --- which is all the OP somehow could manage to find.

Cesar Chavez

Interestingly, Chávez and other migrant farm workers who were legal US citizens were torn between racial and class loyalty. Liberal immigration policies increased Hispanic representation in the US, but harmed the working class by driving down unskilled wages. Chávez sided with workers first and Hispanics second, strongly opposed liberal immigration policies, and favored deporting illegal immigrants.
Increasingly unclear if you have any idea what this thread is even supposed to be about.

 
Old 07-10-2011, 05:12 PM
 
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I never said you were hispanic. I'm still waiting for your explanation why we need unlimited and very massive immigration and why the USA should be the only nation with no immigration laws of any kind.

You can be a "La Raza" type without being hispanic you know.
Please show where anyone here has advocated the bolded.
 
Old 07-10-2011, 05:17 PM
 
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Also, can someone explain how this OP is race baiting?
 
Old 07-10-2011, 05:17 PM
 
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Please show where anyone here has advocated the bolded.
I believe that's what we're all debating about here. Should there be immigration laws? Should immigration be a fair and orderly process? Should the laws be enforced? Should the cheap labor types be allowed to bring in any number of ultra cheap workers even while Americans suffer from joblessness and growing despair.

After all - Cesar Chavez and the early UFW were very much opposed to uncontrolled borders and illegal aliens coming over as strike breakers, they even opposed the Bracero program because it was just about cheap labor and bringing wages down. And no -- Cesar Chavez did not belong to Stormfront or read the posts there.
 
Old 07-10-2011, 05:20 PM
 
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Also, can someone explain how this OP is race baiting?
Let's see him then explain why we need unlimited immigration or be the only country in the world without any immigration laws. Instead of using silly quotes from some racist website we don't care about. We're on this one -- not that one.

Just tell your buddy to explain is point of view, try to justify unlimited immigration - is it for the ultra cheap labor? Or what?
 
Old 07-10-2011, 05:24 PM
 
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Also, can someone explain how this OP is race baiting?
How can it NOT be race-baiting, when the OP starts the thread with quotes from Stormfront?
 
Old 07-10-2011, 05:32 PM
 
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Let's see him then explain why we need unlimited immigration or be the only country in the world without any immigration laws. Instead of using silly quotes from some racist website we don't care about. We're on this one -- not that one.

Just tell your buddy to explain is point of view, try to justify unlimited immigration - is it for the ultra cheap labor? Or what?
Malamute,
no one has advocated no immigration laws in this thread or anywhere else. Take a deep breath. The OP wasn't about that. It was about conspiratorial hysteria surrounding much of the debate about legal/illegal immigration. Whether you want to realize it or not, your behavior in this very thread has vindicated the OP.
 
Old 07-10-2011, 05:33 PM
 
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How can it NOT be race-baiting, when the OP starts the thread with quotes from Stormfront?
If you would read the whole post, you would have an answer.
 
Old 07-10-2011, 05:38 PM
 
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How can it NOT be race-baiting, when the OP starts the thread with quotes from Stormfront?
Reread the OP.
 
Old 07-10-2011, 05:47 PM
 
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If you would read the whole post, you would have an answer.
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Reread the OP.
I will not lend credence to a thread that insults this forum, by comparing us to such a despicable group as Stormfront. He should have made his point without injecting their quotes.
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