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Old 07-12-2011, 12:37 PM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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...I think I made the distinction between Arizona "Southwest Culture" and New Mexico "Southwest Culture". Did you miss that? This is a case of you do it your way and we do it our way and please don't try to change our way to fit your way. You don't need to worry about who assimilates or not..It is what it is and we don't need your help Thank You very much.

I beg to differ...Phoenix has not "grown like a weed". Yes, there has been huge growth but it has been a steady growth not "weed-like". Yes, I am sure you will find exceptions but you will find that in any city...
Again, when I put a context and terminology used to describe non-White references here, there is suddenly resentment if those same terms are applied to Whites and their lifestyles. Phoenix doesn't match the diversity found in the surrounding state of Arizona. I think part of the recall effort is the rest of Arizona trying to shed what the Phoenix politicians are forcing on them.

When the shoe of assimilation is put on the other foot, why would there be such a different response? Hispanics are treated as being more alien than snowbirds in Phoenix and Mesa. The lawsuits, investigations, and recall efforts show that.

A politician should be worried about a recall election, it is not a common measure, and shows that he has dramatically lost touch with a portion of his constituents...
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Old 07-12-2011, 04:28 PM
 
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Knowing what you imply merely takes reading your posts. Might be hard for some who agree with you, not so hard for the rest.

BTW, the second part of your quote, which you attempt to attribute to me, is not mine. If you can prove differently, repost the quote with the message that I said it included. Typical attempt of the side you represent. You really ought to try the truth once in a while, if you can still recognize it.
Ok here is what you wrote:

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Implying that only whites can be racist and no one else is capable of being so. By constantly implying that the whites are evil oppressors of these poor (not) illegals.
Please show me just one post where I imply that only whites can be racist and/or where I imply that whites are evil oppressors of anyone?

re: your second paragraph. Serious reading comprehension fail dude, that was my original quote that you originally responded to.
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Old 07-13-2011, 04:37 PM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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The recall election for Russell Pearce is set for November 8th, 2011 - Enough into the "snowbird" migration of the "Wisconquista"...
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Old 07-13-2011, 05:05 PM
 
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I wonder if there is a timeline for Governor Brewer to set the recall election for Pearce. Arizona is a bit different on voting than other states - As long as you have part-time residence (i.e. "Snowbirds" that come from the northern states in the Winter) you can vote in an election. When November is the usual voting date, more voters from predominantly White states are present to give some candidates an edge.

I call it the "Wisconquista" - Some of the snowbirds come down to Arizona, less familiar with the ethnic makeup of the Southwest, and wonder "What are all these Mexicans doing in the United States?"...

And they are electing politicians like Pearce and Sheriff Joe that want to make Hispanics as uncomfortable as possible in Arizona...
Make Hispanics uncomfortable? You mean illegal aliens, don't you? Why would Hispanic citizens be uncomfortable? Your remark comes straight from the pro-illegal handbook. Congratulations.
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Old 07-13-2011, 05:12 PM
 
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Because in practice that is how it is applied. We just had a thread on the forum about two Hispanic citizens detained for hours by Sheriff Joe's deputies. The Arizona legislators also backdated court-appointed compensation to exclusively protect Roger Barnett from claims he owed.
Mistakes are made. I hardly think a couple or even a few mistakes made makes for some kind of rampant infringement on Hispanic citizen rights. It is understandable anyway since most illegals are Hispanic. Over 60 illegal employees were caught at the place where these two men worked. Why aren't you overjoyed about that instead of the little inconvenience that these two Hispanic men had to endure?
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Old 07-13-2011, 05:16 PM
 
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If we had a record of getting 60 executions for capital murder "right" for every two we made an "understandable" "mistake" about, would you be "overjoyed" despite the "little inconvenience" two people had to endure?
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Old 07-13-2011, 05:52 PM
 
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Who thinks the terms Hispanic and illegals are interchangeable?
That is not only an ignorant statement but patently racist, even if they don't know what they are talking about.

You better be careful guero in case you haven't noticed people of Latino descent are fastly becoming the new majority in the States. Legal Majority.
That's hilarious. Latino citizens number only about 30 million out of a total population of over 310 million in this country. I love the way they like to puff up their numbers.
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Old 07-13-2011, 06:00 PM
 
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That's hilarious. Latino citizens number only about 30 million out of a total population of over 310 million in this country. I love the way they like to puff up their numbers.
I also love how "the other they" inflate the number of illegal immigrants to 30 million...
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Old 07-13-2011, 06:01 PM
 
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J.T. Ready doesn't like to be identified as a "Nazi", he prefers "National Socialist". It was interesting to see the different stories between Ready and Russell Pearce about their interactions. Ultimately I think J.T. was much more truthful, even through his ideology is off.
Let's admit the facts here. The reason that the pro-illegals don't like Ready or Pearce is because of their anti-illegal immigration stances (same thing with Arpaio). The truth shall set you free.
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Old 07-13-2011, 06:04 PM
 
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Again, when I put a context and terminology used to describe non-White references here, there is suddenly resentment if those same terms are applied to Whites and their lifestyles. Phoenix doesn't match the diversity found in the surrounding state of Arizona. I think part of the recall effort is the rest of Arizona trying to shed what the Phoenix politicians are forcing on them.

When the shoe of assimilation is put on the other foot, why would there be such a different response? Hispanics are treated as being more alien than snowbirds in Phoenix and Mesa. The lawsuits, investigations, and recall efforts show that.

A politician should be worried about a recall election, it is not a common measure, and shows that he has dramatically lost touch with a portion of his constituents...
You are mixing apples with oranges here. We are not a Hispanic nation in identity, regardless of different ethnic areas. Therefore, there is no reason for snowbirds to "assimilate" to the Hispanic culture since it isn't the mainstream identity of our nation.
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