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Old 07-14-2011, 12:00 PM
 
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That has nothing to do with Nazi.
You seem to have chosen the one non-Nazi thing the dude has said. There are pictures of him actively participating in freaking Nazi rallies, dude.
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Old 07-14-2011, 12:25 PM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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That has nothing to do with Nazi.
Here is J.T. Ready among friends (at an illegal immigration protest), why don't you listen to some of his views on video (the first quote I attributed to Ready can be heard here)?:



A note that Jeff Hall, whom is also interviewed beside Ready, was recently killed by his young son...
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Old 07-14-2011, 01:58 PM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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You seem to have chosen the one non-Nazi thing the dude has said. There are pictures of him actively participating in freaking Nazi rallies, dude.

‪neo-Nazi White Supremacists supporting Sheriff Joe Arpaio‬‏ - YouTube
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Old 07-14-2011, 02:56 PM
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I wonder if there is a timeline for Governor Brewer to set the recall election for Pearce. Arizona is a bit different on voting than other states - As long as you have part-time residence (i.e. "Snowbirds" that come from the northern states in the Winter) you can vote in an election. When November is the usual voting date, more voters from predominantly White states are present to give some candidates an edge.

I call it the "Wisconquista" - Some of the snowbirds come down to Arizona, less familiar with the ethnic makeup of the Southwest, and wonder "What are all these Mexicans doing in the United States?"...

And they are electing politicians like Pearce and Sheriff Joe that want to make Hispanics as uncomfortable as possible in Arizona...

The Sun City effect. The influence of the older, white snowbirds is definately on the wane. It is clear that as the years pass and more of the aging transplants and part-time residents begin their farewell tour on the celestial RV, that politics will change dramatically in AZ. The success that the Pearce recall has had so far is actually an indication that catering to scared blue hairs from the Midwest is no longer a winning campaign strategy.
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Old 07-14-2011, 03:03 PM
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Recall signatures mean nothing, the vote is what counts and the chances of a recall being successful is almost non existant.

Nita
The signatures all came from registered voters in his district. It is only the voters in his district that will vote in the recall election. The recall petition was signed by more people than voted for Pearce in the last election. To put it another way, if Pearce maintains 100% of his support and only the people that signed the petition vote against him, he will still lose.
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Old 07-14-2011, 03:09 PM
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That is just the typical pro-illegal propaganda and smears. Just admit that you advocates for illegal aliens don't like him or Pearce because of their anti-illegal immigration views. Pro-illegals always do this. They smear anyone who is anti-illegal with personal attacks.
Are you trying to claim that JT Ready is not a neo-Nazi white supremacist?

You might be surprised to find out that he will readily admit to his involvement with these groups. He may be a racist scumbag, but he at least has the courage to stand by his beliefs.
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Old 07-14-2011, 03:10 PM
 
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So you believe there are 60 million hispanics in the US? ~20% of the population? There are good estimates, some not even in the "pro-illegal" side... but wth, lets choose the number that makes less sense...

30+ million illegals? Just taking the 65% Mexican out of there that would be 19.5 million, which had to come here starting in 1984, that's 720,000 per year in average... if you add legal migration from mexico that almost takes it to 1 million per year... which is pretty much the rate of population growth mexico has had in the previous years...



How are you defending that guy? Can you point out to what you mean by "spin"?
The last census said there were 50 million Hispanics in this country. I don't know how many are here legally or illegally. No one knows the exact number for sure. 30 million could be inflated and 12 million could be well under the actual number.

I am not defending anyone but to say that someone was a "former" member of a certain group, means just that, "former". It is spin to call illegal aliens,
"immigrants".
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Old 07-14-2011, 03:14 PM
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lol yeah guys, I mean sure he was at a Neo-Nazi rally, but where are the quotes

LOL, I bet he just got lost on the way to a meeting of the Anti Defamation League.

The brownshirts and swastikas were hardly noticeable. At a glance, I could see how a person might think it was just a group of unusually old and obese Boy Scouts.
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Old 07-14-2011, 03:15 PM
 
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Wow, you couch your last sentences that even a "possible imposter" wouldn't show the Nazi views. I've seen J.T. around to know that the comments he has left on a couple blogs are from him. Perhaps he might even show up here.

Last I did hear (and I originally phrased it here), he didn't like to be identified as a "Nazi", he liked the "NSM" label better. The recentness of the picture surprises me too, because I had heard that they ditched the khaki uniforms with swastika armbands in favor of the black garb (no pun intended) like J.T. is wearing in this picture:



For a quote, I will open with this one:

“This is a white, European homeland. That’s how it should be preserved if we want to keep it clean, safe, and pure.”
— J.T. Ready speaking at a National Socialist Movement rally in Oct. 24, 2009

Do you expect that these debates, especially when it comes down to defining ideology like this, will be polite? As I've commented, J.T.'s honesty is refreshing, other identified White Nationalists conceal some aspects of their true beliefs on mainstream forums. How can Stephen Lemons be further "left" than someone that has membership in a "Socialist" movement?

Or is J.T. Ready tolerated only because he has an "anti-illegal immigration viewpoint"?...
I take his remarks to mean that we have a white majority in this country. What is wrong with preserving white culture? I guess it is only racist to preserves one's culture if it is a white one?

Lemons is an idiot, plain and simple. I couldn't stand posting in his blog anymore. Any one who continues to do so while profanity and insults are tolerated must have something wrong with them.

I couldn't care less what Ready's other views are. I am only agreeing with him on illegal immigration. Even a clock is right twice a day.
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Old 07-14-2011, 03:17 PM
 
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The Sun City effect. The influence of the older, white snowbirds is definately on the wane. It is clear that as the years pass and more of the aging transplants and part-time residents begin their farewell tour on the celestial RV, that politics will change dramatically in AZ. The success that the Pearce recall has had so far is actually an indication that catering to scared blue hairs from the Midwest is no longer a winning campaign strategy.
Wow, racist much? Sounds like the deceased TC reincarnated.
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