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Old 07-11-2011, 01:18 PM
 
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Since the people of Mexico are essentially Native Americans based on a lot of factors including genetic make up and former land ownership before Europeans invaded do they have a right to be here?
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Old 07-11-2011, 01:28 PM
 
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Since the people of Mexico are essentially Native Americans based on a lot of factors including genetic make up and former land ownership before Europeans invaded do they have a right to be here?
my ancestors came from germany and england. Do I have a right to take residence in either country whenever I want?
Did native Americans allow tribes from Texas to move into say Wyoming?
I dont think so.
The fact remains that its been hundreds of years and no living natives are alive today to make a claim.
What is the limit on such a claim? 100 years? 1000?
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Old 07-11-2011, 02:52 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Since the people of Mexico are essentially Native Americans based on a lot of factors including genetic make up and former land ownership before Europeans invaded do they have a right to be here?

Sure, as long as they are citizens of the USA.

The Texans and the US cavalry and citizens, kicked our ass.

I can live with it. My forefathers got made to walk to Oklahoma, or die.
Am I bitter.... NO. That was then, this is now.

The USA is my tribe, now.
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Old 07-11-2011, 05:20 PM
 
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Since the people of Mexico are essentially Native Americans based on a lot of factors including genetic make up and former land ownership before Europeans invaded do they have a right to be here?
Well a few things, Mexicans are a mix of Spanish and Native American ancestry, not Native Americans themselves. There are still actual Aztecs and Mayans living in Mexico ( the Zapateca Revolution is related to this) who are actually treated quite badly. Secondly, Native Americans are not a monolithic group any more than Americans can claim rights to British lands etc. Aztecs, Toltecs and Mayans rarely touched anything above Mexico so any "US" land would pertain to the Native Americas indigenous to the geographic area, not to Mexico proper.
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Old 07-12-2011, 10:26 AM
 
Location: On a Long Island in NY
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Should the United States claim Bermuda just because it's off of North Carolina? Should the United States claim the Bahamas because it's below Florida? Should we claim Canada because Canadians are White like many Americans?

As a side note, most Mexicans are actually Mestizo which is a mix of Spanish and Indian. There are relatively few pure blooded Mexican Indians left and most of them are way down by Guatemala. The Indian tribes along the border are all American citizens on American soil ... and historically they are none to fond of the Mexicans. Many of them are among our most patriotic warriors with a long history of serving in the US military.
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Old 07-12-2011, 12:12 PM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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...The Indian tribes along the border are all American citizens on American soil ... and historically they are none to fond of the Mexicans. Many of them are among our most patriotic warriors with a long history of serving in the US military.
Or of fighting it, none too fond of us either...
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Old 07-12-2011, 04:36 PM
 
Location: John & Ken-ville
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Since the people of Mexico are essentially Native Americans based on a lot of factors including genetic make up and former land ownership before Europeans invaded do they have a right to be here?
If they were supposed to be on this side of the border they would already live here right? They wouldn't have to climb a fence or cross a river to get here.

Besides, when you purchase something LIKE LAND, if you paid for it it's yours right?
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Old 07-12-2011, 05:00 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Long ago, my forefathers would have scalped you no matter who you were if you crossed the Rio Grande. That has always been a border between tribes.

The Apache and Comanche, did not like each other but respected their boarders, or face the consequences.
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Old 07-12-2011, 05:20 PM
 
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Since the people of Mexico are essentially Native Americans based on a lot of factors including genetic make up and former land ownership before Europeans invaded do they have a right to be here?
No. The Mesoamericans did not have land claim to the present-day United States and besides, most Mexicans are mixed blood anyways. Like a psoter above me said, the pure blooded indigenous in Mexico mostly live near Guatemala. Much of the Mexicans coming here look like they are around 1/2 indigenous blood and yet their ancestors had no land claim in the U.S.
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Old 07-12-2011, 06:06 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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First, the time that these people claiming they have a "right" to be here are basing this claim on a time stamp, right? In the big picture their descendants lived on this part of N America claimed by Mexico for a very short period of time. This is no different that many old European claims to islands and land that are no longer inhabited by the French or Italians that "claimed" the land.

Second, how do people coming here from Guatemala have a "right" to live here based on the above?
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