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Old 07-14-2011, 12:39 PM
 
Location: Dalton Gardens
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Okay, I know that many are completely against any sort of amnesty for those who have entered our country illegally. I also strongly held this stance until recently, but have now reconsidered that stance to one which is a bit more willing to allow at least SOME to be given amnesty.

IF amnesty were to be offered, what criteria would you want to see met before it was granted?

For me, I would want these issues considered...

1. Has the applicant been a benefit to their community and neighborhood, instead of a detriment. Example...they take pride in where they live and strive to maintain a nice, healthy living environment which helps to improve instead of drop property values.

2. They have integrated with American society to a degree which enables and encourages communication with others outside of their ethnic background.

3. They have learned the basics of the American English language, maybe not fluently, but enough to communicate.

4. They have supported themselves and their family without the aid of welfare or any other benefits.

5. They have no criminal background, other than the fact that they entered the country illegally.

6. They do not have any infectious disease which could have an impact on Americans.

7. They are mentally and physically healthy enough to work for a living instead of resorting to welfare or benefits.

8. They are willing to pay the usual immigration fees, as well as a fine for entering illegally.

9. They have no gang affiliations, nor any ties to terrorists groups or political groups which seek to overthrow the American government.

10. They are not involved in any way with the trafficking of drugs.

These are just the main issues I would want to be considered if amnesty were to be offered.
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Old 07-14-2011, 12:42 PM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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Okay, I know that many are completely against any sort of amnesty for those who have entered our country illegally. I also strongly held this stance until recently, but have now reconsidered that stance to one which is a bit more willing to allow at least SOME to be given amnesty.

IF amnesty were to be offered, what criteria would you want to see met before it was granted?

For me, I would want these issues considered...

1. Has the applicant been a benefit to their community and neighborhood, instead of a detriment. Example...they take pride in where they live and strive to maintain a nice, healthy living environment which helps to improve instead of drop property values.

2. They have integrated with American society to a degree which enables and encourages communication with others outside of their ethnic background.

3. They have learned the basics of the American English language, maybe not fluently, but enough to communicate.

4. They have supported themselves and their family without the aid of welfare or any other benefits.

5. They have no criminal background, other than the fact that they entered the country illegally.

6. They do not have any infectious disease which could have an impact on Americans.

7. They are mentally and physically healthy enough to work for a living instead of resorting to welfare or benefits.

8. They are willing to pay the usual immigration fees, as well as a fine for entering illegally.

9. They have no gang affiliations, nor any ties to terrorists groups or political groups which seek to overthrow the American government.

10. They are not involved in any way with the trafficking of drugs.

These are just the main issues I would want to be considered if amnesty were to be offered.
Excellent topic Cyanna, I look forward to some good dialog on the thread...

I still am not allowed to rep you so soon...
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Old 07-14-2011, 12:47 PM
 
Location: North Texas
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No criteria as I do not support amnesty for illegals in any way, shape, or form. Sorry.
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Old 07-14-2011, 12:49 PM
 
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Agree to vote for the Dems and work for very low wages to earn support huge profits for employers.



At least that answer is honest. The Dems want voters and the Reps want cheap labor. Neither party cares about much else. Amnesty is the worst possible thing we could do. All that you'll get are more low skilled criminals hoping the pols will give into their demands.
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Old 07-14-2011, 01:00 PM
 
Location: Dalton Gardens
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Excellent topic Cyanna, I look forward to some good dialog on the thread...

I still am not allowed to rep you so soon...
Thanks
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Old 07-14-2011, 01:06 PM
 
Location: Dalton Gardens
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No criteria as I do not support amnesty for illegals in any way, shape, or form. Sorry.
Okay, thats fair enough. But, even if you don't support it, what would you, as an American citizen, want the immigration department to include in its guidelines IF we were forced to deal with amnesty being enacted as an option?
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Old 07-14-2011, 01:08 PM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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what criteria should be met?

how about this, if you are in the USA illegally, then you go back to the country from which you came and apply like all the legal immigrants did.
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Old 07-14-2011, 01:08 PM
 
Location: Dalton Gardens
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Agree to vote for the Dems and work for very low wages to earn support huge profits for employers.



At least that answer is honest. The Dems want voters and the Reps want cheap labor. Neither party cares about much else. Amnesty is the worst possible thing we could do. All that you'll get are more low skilled criminals hoping the pols will give into their demands.
LOL! Yes, at least it is an honest answer

So, two of your criteria choices would be...

1. Must have higher skills

2. No criminal history

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Old 07-14-2011, 01:08 PM
 
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And just what does amnesty say to the many thousands of immigrants who go through official channels to become American citizens?

That it's OK to flaunt American laws and the Americans will just turn the other cheek perhaps?

Amnesty was done before and where is America now? Back in the same situation...

Identifying, capturing and deporting all illegal aliens and securing our borders by whatever means necessary is the ONLY solution....

NO amnesty, PERIOD.

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Old 07-14-2011, 01:08 PM
 
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Okay, thats fair enough. But, even if you don't support it, what would you, as an American citizen, want the immigration department to include in its guidelines IF we were forced to deal with amnesty being enacted as an option?
I want the immigration department to enforce existing laws on immigration. Like most Americans that's what I want.
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