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Old 07-15-2011, 09:44 AM
 
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Because people are human beings ?
The love of family reasoning comes into question when the same individuals had no issue with abandoning their original families to begin with.
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Old 07-15-2011, 09:59 AM
 
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The love of family reasoning comes into question when the same individuals had no issue with abandoning their original families to begin with.
Is everyone who moves abandoning their family? Do you live with your parents?
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Old 07-15-2011, 10:04 AM
 
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Is everyone who moves abandoning their family? Do you live with your parents?
I believe the questioning was directed at the individuals who leave their wives and children behind and then start a new family in the USA.
The pattern of abandonment is apparent.
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Old 07-15-2011, 10:06 AM
 
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I believe the questioning was directed at the individuals who leave their wives and children behind and then start a new family in the USA.
The pattern of abandonment is apparent.
It's apparent? So what is it? What percentage of illegals leave their wife and kids and come up here to marry into a new family?
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Old 07-15-2011, 10:16 AM
 
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It's apparent? So what is it? What percentage of illegals leave their wife and kids and come up here to marry into a new family?
Unknown . The post is not about 100% of all illegals. It is about the ones with children in both countries.
Do all post need to be about 100% of all illegals? Is this a new rule?
Can you deny that there is a % of illegals who fall into this catagory?
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Old 07-15-2011, 10:20 AM
 
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Unknown . The post is not about 100% of all illegals. It is about the ones with children in both countries.
Do all post need to be about 100% of all illegals? Is this a new rule?
Can you deny that there is a % of illegals who fall into this catagory?
No, I was just denying that you knew what that percentage was.

I mean, there you are saying:

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That still doesnt answer why so many illegals left family and children behind when they came to the USA and then started a new family.
And now your argument has degraded to "at least one has done that, amirite?"
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Old 07-15-2011, 12:23 PM
 
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If you move to the United States illegally, you have to anticipate that someday, the United States might make you go back home.

No sympathy, no excuses. You knew the risks going in. Choosing to have a kid in the United States (nobody forced you to do same) also comes with the KNOWN risk that someday, you may have to be separated from the child if you are forced to go back home and do not want to bring them back to the old country.

If you did not know the risk, or did not ever think it would happen to you, then your arrogance and willful ignorance does not garner additional sympathy.
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Old 07-15-2011, 12:30 PM
 
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If you move to the United States illegally, you have to anticipate that someday, the United States might make you go back home.
Cool story. If you smoke pot, you should anticipate that you may get caught and sent to prison. I'd still call every one of those convictions unjust.
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Old 07-15-2011, 12:36 PM
 
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If you move to the United States illegally, you have to anticipate that someday, the United States might make you go back home.
If you walk around town, you have to anticipate that someday you might get mugged.

Conclusion: muggings are justified, you knew the risks!
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Old 07-15-2011, 12:41 PM
 
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No, I was just denying that you knew what that percentage was.

I mean, there you are saying:



And now your argument has degraded to "at least one has done that, amirite?"
No it stands. There are a good number of male illegals have done what I have said. This isnt new this is old news.
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