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Old 09-23-2011, 05:17 PM
 
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Would you mind quoting the post? I donít recall anyone claiming the majority of welfare recipients are illegal aliens. Perhaps youíre thinking of the large percentage of welfare recipients among the illegal alien population. If so, according to available data, that is true.
No, it's not a majority.
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Old 09-23-2011, 06:04 PM
 
Location: Houston, Texas
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Would you mind quoting the post? I donít recall anyone claiming the majority of welfare recipients are illegal aliens. Perhaps youíre thinking of the large percentage of welfare recipients among the illegal alien population. If so, according to available data, that is true.
I'm not sure about this thread, but in previous discussions people have said things of that nature.
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Old 10-01-2011, 01:13 PM
 
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Well, it's mainly because anchor babies tend to be a phenomenon along the U.S.-Mexico border.

This is NOT including illegals who live long term in the US and have children as they live their lives. This only includes people who cross the border for the sole reason for giving birth in the US.

Snopes explains this in detail at: snopes.com: Parkland Memorial Hospital and Illegal Immigrants

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Really? Perhaps you could prove that. Again, Mexicans are here by far in the largest numbers illegally therefore it is safe to say that they are producing the most anchors. You have read the stats that Hispanics are the fastest growing group in this country, haven't you? Sure, many of those births are from citizens also but much of that even started with illegal immigration from several decades back. I am opposed to birthright citizenship for all anchors and hope that in the future it will be a requirement that at least one parent be a citizen of this country.
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Old 10-01-2011, 01:41 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Well, it's mainly because anchor babies tend to be a phenomenon along the U.S.-Mexico border.

This is NOT including illegals who live long term in the US and have children as they live their lives. This only includes people who cross the border for the sole reason for giving birth in the US.

Snopes explains this in detail at: snopes.com: Parkland Memorial Hospital and Illegal Immigrants
Not according to this. . .

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The analysis focuses on the growth of Mexican-Americans, who make up more than 60 percent of the U.S. Hispanic population. Tracing a mass Mexican migration to the U.S. that began in 1970 and reached its height during the 1990s, it finds that young Mexicans who crossed the border many years ago are now adding to the population by having many children. That is a contrast to other racial and ethnic groups, who on average are older.

In all, the Mexican-American population grew by 11.4 million over the last decade, of which 63 percent came as a result of births. That is a reversal from the previous two decades, when the number of new Mexican immigrants either matched or exceeded the number of Mexican births.
Births, not immigrants, pushing US Latino growth - CBS News
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Old 10-01-2011, 02:26 PM
 
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I don't think they should receive welfare, but I have problems with people trying to spread the myth they make up the majority of recipients.
They don't yet make up the majority of welfare recipients except in certain cities.

The technicality is that the US born baby is a citizen and it's the baby that brings in all the many types of welfare - Medicaid, WIC coupons, government housing, food stamps, utility bill assistance, and much more.

Virtually NO illegals come over the border and purchase a health insurance policy for themselves and virtually none of them actually pay a doctor and hospital bill when they give birth here.

It's estimated a third of illegals receive food stamps and WIC, many more of them receive Medicaid (the Emergency Medicaid program is meant for them) when they give birth or are injured or become ill.

That third of course are the women who came over to give birth here but also the males benefit in many ways, nothing stops them from eating the food bought with food stamps, or living in government provided housing even if they do work here and there. Nor does it stop other family members from doing the same. Food stamp allotment is based on household size and income, it helps a lot if much of the income is undocumented.
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Old 10-01-2011, 02:37 PM
 
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...The technicality is that the US born baby is a citizen...
No, it's pretty much a fact that a U.S. born baby is a U.S. citizen, not a "technicality"...
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Old 10-01-2011, 02:50 PM
 
Location: California
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No, it's pretty much a fact that a U.S. born baby is a U.S. citizen, not a "technicality"...
And yet we have agreed that merely obtaining a birth certificate is only a way of beginning an identity and isn't a guarantee of BRC. Just because the DoS Foreign Affair manual changed the definition to include children born to IA in 2009, doesn't mean that it will remain that.
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Old 10-09-2011, 09:47 PM
 
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Benicar: What you posted does not contradict what I say.

The Snopes articles makes a distinction between illegals who jump over the border just to give birth to an American baby, and illegals who live in the U.S. for a long time and then give birth

Mom went over the border to give birth = Anchor babies
Mom was already in the USA for several months/years when she gave birth = not Anchor babies

Snopes said that most births at Dallas Parkland Hospital to illegals were of the latter, not the former.

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Old 10-09-2011, 09:52 PM
 
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Benicar: What you posted does not contradict what I say.

The Snopes articles makes a distinction between illegals who jump over the border just to give birth to an American baby, and illegals who live in the U.S. for a long time and then give birth

Mom went over the border to give birth = Anchor babies
Mom was already in the USA for several months/years when she gave birth = not Anchor babies

Snopes said that most births at Dallas Parkland Hospital to illegals were of the latter, not the former.
Some women aren't as fertile as others. How long it takes to conceive and give birth isn't the factor, many illegals are pregnant months before crossing the border, others might not get pregnant until they've been in the USA a few months.

Also if the illegals decide to go back home and take their children with them, then the children aren't anchors.

The anchor baby is one whose parents and other family members intend to exploit him or her for the purpose of remaining in the USA. The anchor baby's birth is paid for by US taxpayers, the anchor brings in food stamps, WIC, government housing. When the child reaches 18, the child is to start sponsoring the illegal family members. The types of illegals who claim they cannot be deported because they gave birth to children here are trying to use their children as anchors no matter if they had them 5 minutes after making it over the border or 3 years after.
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