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Old 07-17-2011, 11:58 PM
 
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Who has tried to dictate which term you use? Actually, I don’t care what others choose to call illegal aliens. Their preference simply indicates their stance, especially is they refuse to use any term other than undocumented.

Well, it’s way past my bedtime. Have a good evening.
Many threads are interrupted because often many on your side object to these terms. Instead of discussing the topic, people get off track discussing these terms. Who cares what stance they take. That is why we are here to discuss our stance and not what terms we decide to use. You have also objected to these terms on at least one of my posts. Lets be discuss the bigger issues.

Good night...
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Old 07-18-2011, 07:46 AM
 
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Well not all illegals intend to remain here forever, some actually decide at some point to return home, they were only here to get a little financially ahead and were more like illegal guest workers.
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Old 07-18-2011, 08:13 AM
 
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Many threads are interrupted because often many on your side object to these terms. Instead of discussing the topic, people get off track discussing these terms. Who cares what stance they take. That is why we are here to discuss our stance and not what terms we decide to use. You have also objected to these terms on at least one of my posts. Lets be discuss the bigger issues.

Good night...
Let me ask you this. Why is it that the pro-illegals always refer to any laws or people who are for enforcing our immigration policies as being anti-"immigrant"? You have to admit that is the ultimate spin on terms. Most Americans do not object to legal immigrants. Even those who would like to see less legal immigration based on the state of our economy today and stabilizating our population growth are NOT ant-immigrant but yet the spin on terms continues by the pro-illegals. Why do they refer to illegal aliens/immigrants as just plain old immigrants without using the correct adjective to describe them aka illegal?
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Old 07-18-2011, 08:17 AM
 
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Well not all illegals intend to remain here forever, some actually decide at some point to return home, they were only here to get a little financially ahead and were more like illegal guest workers.
And?
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Old 07-18-2011, 09:11 AM
 
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Oranges shouldn't be mix with apples.

You wouldn't call a shoplifter a shopper
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Old 07-18-2011, 09:19 AM
 
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Oranges shouldn't be mix with apples.
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Old 07-18-2011, 09:30 AM
 
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Oranges shouldn't be mix with apples.

You wouldn't call a shoplifter a shopper
No, in obama speak they would be called:

Prospective Disadvantaged Purchasers

I agree with the OP, call them whatever one likes.....

Now why the OP had to start a new thread to tell us their personal choice of phrases is beyond me...

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Old 07-18-2011, 09:56 AM
 
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No, in obama speak they would be called:

Prospective Disadvantaged Purchasers

I agree with the OP, call them whatever one likes.....

Now why the OP had to start a new thread to tell us their personal choice of phrases is beyond me...
I agree.

Either way they should be deported.
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Old 07-18-2011, 12:44 PM
 
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Many threads are interrupted because often many on your side object to these terms. Instead of discussing the topic, people get off track discussing these terms. Who cares what stance they take. That is why we are here to discuss our stance and not what terms we decide to use. You have also objected to these terms on at least one of my posts. Lets be discuss the bigger issues.

Good night...
My objection is not to one’s right to use a particular term. Rather, to their dishonesty. Again, you are free to use any term you choose. After all, in the U.S. we are entitled to freedom of speech. However, when you use a term such as anti-immigrant, or when the term “immigrant” rather than illegal immigrant/alien is used to describe foreign interlopers, then, yes, it is annoying. They are here illegally, and a distinction should be made.

If a stranger took your car without your permission, you wouldn’t call them an “unauthorized borrower.” You would call them a car thief, because that is exactly what they are. Likewise, no one in their right mind would call a rapist a “lover” because lover implies consent, and rape is certainly not consensual sex. The same applies to non-citizens. They are either authorized to be here (legal), or they are here in violation of our laws (illegal). There is no gray area, and only the desperate and/or disingenuous attempt to blur the lines.
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Old 07-18-2011, 01:56 PM
 
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On this, we are definitely in agreement.
I'd like to know what "reformation of our immigration laws" means, wouldn't you? How is giving amnesty to millions of illegal aliens, "reformation"? We already take in as many legal immigrants that we can accomodate in jobs and resources and in fact with the lack of jobs today the only "reforming" I would we would need in regards to that would be fewer immigrants until our job situation improves.
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