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Old 07-24-2011, 07:36 PM
 
Location: Tempe, Az
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Immigrants were doing those jobs. The law is why no one is there now. You are saying the government should assign people jobs? What kind of governments have tried this before? hmmmm



I wonder which would create more jobs. Farmers getting their crops harvested and recirculating their profits through the economy as well as having all these employees spending in the country, or if GA farmers lose $300 million to more than $1 billion this year alone.

Georgia Crop Losses Could Top $1 Billion
We DONT need illegal aliens.

Many people lost there unemployment and would take those ag jobs. The employers CANT mess Americans over like they can illegal aliens. Thats the real reason many crooked employers are freaked.

 
Old 07-24-2011, 08:05 PM
 
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We DONT need illegal aliens.

Many people lost there unemployment and would take those ag jobs. The employers CANT mess Americans over like they can illegal aliens. Thats the real reason many crooked employers are freaked.
I actually believe that many if not most Americans don't want to make crop picking a career. It is physically limiting for long periods of time and doesn't pay enough to support a middle class lifestyle. Some of our youth and less educated Americans might be williing to do that for a short period of time.

Therefore, where there is a shortage of Americans to pick crops there are unlimited H-2A visas. The farmers have no excuse whatsover to circumvent our laws and hire illegal aliens except for pure greed.
 
Old 07-24-2011, 09:55 PM
 
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What about bringing back the chain gangs? US prisons are overcrowded; full of bored men who workout in the rec room and then sit in their cells all day. Working in the fields will rehabilitate them faster. It would be a good use of taxpayers' money too since we are already paying for their room and board.
Great Idea , that and the generations of welfare leaches should work for their meals.

There is no excuse for generations of ignorant single moms and deadbeat fathers that collect freebies and do nothing for them.

Instead of giving things and rewards for irresponsible behaviour these people should have to work for them. A few years of welfare to get back on your feet is reasonable, a lifetime is not.

Instead of sitting on your butt waiting for a government handout working in the fields would keep these people in shape, saving healthcare costs.
 
Old 07-25-2011, 12:52 AM
 
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Well then every American should go to work in the farms for 1 month and pick Cucumbers, Melons or what ever. So start packing your bags and get out there and help out!!!!
 
Old 07-25-2011, 01:29 AM
 
Location: Phoenix
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Duh.

Because the only reason to oppose the massive importation of low skilled people who don't speak English, pay little in taxes and use welfare in the middle of a recession is because you're a racist!



It would be really nice if people reserved the accusation of racism for those who really are racists. But that leaves very few reasons to support illegals so I'm not surprised.

The real racism is the racism that believes that some people are simply too stupid to adhere to internationally agreed upon borders or learn English before moving here or fix up their own countries instead of coming to America in the middle of a recession. The pro-illegal stance is insanely paternalistic. Why those brown people can't help themselves! They can't be expected to obey laws like everyone else! They can't be expected to stay in school and refrain from fathering children they cannot afford. Oh no. Let's just change the laws so they don't have to do any of those things. Besides they obey some laws. Isn't it wonderful how they obey the laws that state they can get food stamps if they have children! And they even pay a little bit of taxes here and there. Just wonderful! Let's grade them on a curve and protect them from those nasty rotten Americans who don't speak Spanish.

It's santimonious condescension masquarading as alleged concern.
Bravo, Bravo Very well said. I have got to rep. that.
Great post.
 
Old 07-25-2011, 01:46 AM
 
Location: Phoenix
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Immigrants were doing those jobs. The law is why no one is there now. You are saying the government should assign people jobs? What kind of governments have tried this before? hmmmm



I wonder which would create more jobs. Farmers getting their crops harvested and recirculating their profits through the economy as well as having all these employees spending in the country, or if GA farmers lose $300 million to more than $1 billion this year alone.

Georgia Crop Losses Could Top $1 Billion
They aren't "IMMIGRANTS", they are illegal aliens.
They broke the law when they came here.
 
Old 07-25-2011, 02:23 AM
 
Location: In this horrid OBOMINATION
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Illegal Aliens ruined this nation. The secular ******* progressives are to blame. We should give them California and cut our losses. Look what they have done to California- it is destroyed.

Once Obama is gone, real Americans will have a lot of work to do to clean up the trail of waste he and his anti American posse have left behind
 
Old 07-25-2011, 06:48 AM
 
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You might want to speak with people who are in the workforce rather than the college classroom. Because most Americans do not feel anything but contempt for illegals. Calling that stance racism is ludicrous.

We already have over three hundred million people here. How many more do we need?



The truth is not a stereotype. No illegals should be educated at public expense nor should a single American have educational issues because illegals have violated our laws. If illegals want their kids to get an education let them move back home. You and your little friends are a very good illustration of our need to improve America's educational system. When you lack critical thinking skills it's quite sadly apparent.



So your definition of racism is that people are upset that people who live here don't speak English? How is that racism? What does someone rudely refusing to learn the dominant language of a place you have volunatarily moved have to do with their skin color? Or that people are complaining about Mexicans when the vast majority of illegals are Mexicans and Mexican officials constantly whine that our government dares enforce our immigration laws? Or people get upset that Latino pols perpetually demand things for their raza rather than for their fellow Americans?

That's not a duck. That's not even a quack.
i like your writing style.

that is a good question to ask-how many more people do we need? we all know the answer to that question.

countries are countries because they have a common culture, language, borders, etc.

sadly, we have a group of politicians (on both sides) who want to actually disrespect our country and the wishes of our citizens on this subject.

maybe our politicians need to look up the word "country" and have a little respect for ours.
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