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Old 07-18-2011, 03:03 PM
 
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You do have the option of firing people. For 20 bucks an hour your employee base will improve. I don't use extremes in my scenarios.
20 bucks an hour for a 10/hr job is a 100% increase, which is pretty extreme.

Employers know that increasing wages might attract more talent. They make decisions about how much they are willing to pay vs. their ROI for those wages.

 
Old 07-18-2011, 03:16 PM
 
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I'm sure the $40/lb tomatoes will taste better than the $4/lb tomatoes, right?
 
Old 07-18-2011, 03:34 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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20 bucks an hour for a 10/hr job is a 100% increase, which is pretty extreme.

Employers know that increasing wages might attract more talent. They make decisions about how much they are willing to pay vs. their ROI for those wages.
If they base the wage on piece work or even on a base wage the "cost" per vegetable doesn't really go up that much. If someone is getting paid 100 a day and now is getting paid 200 a day then the "cost" to the employer is only 100 more. Spread out over the hundreds of vegies picked a day by one worker it doesn't add up to some alarming price.
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I'm sure the $40/lb tomatoes will taste better than the $4/lb tomatoes, right?
Certainly not 40 dollar a piece of fruit. If a business owner can't get by paying a decent wage they shouldn't be in business. I don't think an ag job is a 10 $ an hour job. The only reason they get away with a slave like wage is because they are, of course, doing it illegally.

If 10$ an hour doesn't attract any legal workers then the wage is obviously WAY off.
 
Old 07-18-2011, 04:56 PM
 
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Time for those people in prison to get to work. They can work on filing their appeals after a day in the fields, while watching their tv's in their cells. Prison is much to easy now. I am perfectly fine with hard labor for those in prison.
 
Old 07-18-2011, 05:41 PM
 
Location: Richland, Washington
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There are legal immigrants that work as farm hands and there are also a lot of teenagers also do that kind of work. Illegals aren't the source of upholding american agriculture.
 
Old 07-18-2011, 06:10 PM
 
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If they base the wage on piece work or even on a base wage the "cost" per vegetable doesn't really go up that much. If someone is getting paid 100 a day and now is getting paid 200 a day then the "cost" to the employer is only 100 more. Spread out over the hundreds of vegies picked a day by one worker it doesn't add up to some alarming price.

Certainly not 40 dollar a piece of fruit. If a business owner can't get by paying a decent wage they shouldn't be in business. I don't think an ag job is a 10 $ an hour job. The only reason they get away with a slave like wage is because they are, of course, doing it illegally.

If 10$ an hour doesn't attract any legal workers then the wage is obviously WAY off.
Lol @ $10/hr being "slave-like."

I don't think an entertainment job is worth millions, but just because I don't think it's worth that doesn't mean I'm right.
 
Old 07-18-2011, 06:11 PM
 
Location: Tempe, Az
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With unemployment benefits going away for lots of Americans, maybe they can work in the fields?
 
Old 07-18-2011, 06:14 PM
 
Location: Pa
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20 bucks an hour for a 10/hr job is a 100% increase, which is pretty extreme.

Employers know that increasing wages might attract more talent. They make decisions about how much they are willing to pay vs. their ROI for those wages.
Very true. For example they wouldnt pay $20.00 an hour for someone to sweep the floor as a primary job.
They would pay the 20 an hour if the persons skills would deliver a profit.
No argument there.
 
Old 07-18-2011, 06:17 PM
 
Location: Pa
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I'm sure the $40/lb tomatoes will taste better than the $4/lb tomatoes, right?
And I am sure that is an absolute exageration.
How many bushels or pounds of tomatos are picked an hour?
Assuming the illegal is a more gifted harvester even by double which I doubt, and the legal is paid 25% more I don't see an increase by a factor of 10. At most double and I doubt even that.
 
Old 07-18-2011, 06:22 PM
 
Location: Tempe, Az
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20 bucks an hour for a 10/hr job is a 100% increase, which is pretty extreme.

Employers know that increasing wages might attract more talent. They make decisions about how much they are willing to pay vs. their ROI for those wages.
I know LOTS of people who would be happy makin 10 an hour cause they have NO jobs.

My GF, a friend who lives by us an my best friend. ALL of these people are used to working and are sad cause no one wants to hire em.
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