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Old 07-19-2011, 04:27 PM
 
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In 2004 the US produced around 4 billion pounds of fresh-market tomatoes. At $40/lb subsidized cost thats $160 billion. Do you honestly believe that the illegal immigrants picking those vegetables are costing us that much money?
Someone in this forum was claiming $13 billion/month. No cites, of course.

 
Old 07-19-2011, 04:32 PM
 
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Someone in this forum was claiming $13 billion/month. No cites, of course.
Oh, with a little digging I discovered this number comes from a report from FAIR. LOL. Completely unbiased, I'm sure, considering FAIR gets millions of dollars from the Pioneer Fund.
 
Old 07-19-2011, 04:37 PM
 
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So in your opinion laws excluding illegals from the workforce are just natural barriers to entry that have always existed, as far as recorded history goes back?

This is a pretty bizzare viewpoint. At some point those laws were enacted. Before that point, all workers were equal. After that point, two classes were arbitrarily defined. One gets protection, the other gets legally-sanctioned discrimination.

But in your bizzaro universe, the guy that just wants everyone to mind their own business and not have someone intrude upon his operations and tell him "you can't hire that guy because we don't like where he was born" is the one that is asking for a bailout?

Up is down.

Black is white.
What? LOL You guys are definitely a new breed around here. Just get straight to the point. You throw out like 5 bizarre scenarios to my 1 scenario. That is the ratio around here. Five to one. Haha. I'm not even going to try to respond.
 
Old 07-19-2011, 05:02 PM
 
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Yeah it must be tough when everyone goes around taking your statements to their logical conclusions.
 
Old 07-19-2011, 05:04 PM
 
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Yeah it must be tough when everyone goes around taking your statements to their logical conclusions.
Logic? That's off topic.
 
Old 07-19-2011, 05:05 PM
 
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Just get straight to the point.
How much MORE TO THE POINT can I get? You're calling NOT INTERFERING with someone a bailout and at the same time denying that excluding potential competitors from your market benefits you. I can't get ANY MORE BLUNT than that.
 
Old 07-19-2011, 05:07 PM
 
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How much MORE TO THE POINT can I get? You're calling NOT INTERFERING with someone a bailout and at the same time denying that excluding potential competitors from your market benefits you. I can't get ANY MORE BLUNT than that.
LOL Right.
 
Old 07-19-2011, 05:18 PM
 
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all i can say is sigh---let's hear from the farmers and those actually doing the feild work instead of arm chair whiners
 
Old 07-19-2011, 05:29 PM
 
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I find it odd that people hate the bail outs we recently did to certain businesses yet they are quite ok subsidizing other Companies illegal work forces while the businesses make profits.
 
Old 07-19-2011, 05:40 PM
 
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all i can say is sigh---let's hear from the farmers and those actually doing the feild work instead of arm chair whiners
Yes, let's hear from the farmers why they didn't plan ahead and use the unlimmited visas for legal immigrant crop pickers, shall we? Those opposed to illegal immigration and want the rules of employment followed are "arm chair whiners"? Is that the new smear term by the pro-illegals for law abiding Americans?
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