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View Poll Results: Should the US deport illegal immigrants and better prevent their arrival?
Yes. 109 83.21%
No. 22 16.79%
Voters: 131. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 07-22-2011, 02:10 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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This is funny, but all evidence points to the opposite. Immigrants today are assimilating faster than they ever have.
Which “immigrants” are you referring to? If illegal aliens, how would they know? And, what “evidence” did they provide? This wouldn’t by chance be based on reports from USCIS or Census, would it? If so, did they mention their methodology for determining the assimilation rate of illegals?
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Old 07-22-2011, 03:22 PM
 
Location: Pa
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Which “immigrants” are you referring to? If illegal aliens, how would they know? And, what “evidence” did they provide? This wouldn’t by chance be based on reports from USCIS or Census, would it? If so, did they mention their methodology for determining the assimilation rate of illegals?
Good question.
If here illegally how are they tracked or accounted for?
If we can track them and account for them then why does the Gov claim its difficult to catch them?
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Old 07-22-2011, 09:07 PM
 
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Good grief people. Statistics is not black magic.
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Old 07-22-2011, 09:25 PM
 
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Bilingual education allows minority language-speakers to resist assimilation and avoid learning the dominant language. They want to live as a part of mainstream society but are unwilling to change or give up their language or culture
How many Polish, French, or German non assimilation do you see around? Yet at one time, people thought those people wouldn't assimilate either and/or were parasites on society. History and just about every study done shows that immigrants have and continue to assimilate.

People though out history have had your, hummm, fears and in the history of the United States it never has and won't happen. I think the US culture, ideas, and values are pretty powerful concepts for immigrants to encounter and it rubs off on them and their children and the accept them. Like ll aculturalization it takes time, but the outcome has already been decided. They will assimilate. You have nothing to worry about.
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Old 07-22-2011, 11:27 PM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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Which “immigrants” are you referring to? If illegal aliens, how would they know? And, what “evidence” did they provide? This wouldn’t by chance be based on reports from USCIS or Census, would it? If so, did they mention their methodology for determining the assimilation rate of illegals?
Your so right as ususal! how are they accounted for, if they are not being tracked?
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Old 07-22-2011, 11:31 PM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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Many know English but refuse to speak it.
That is true. But what the guy said to me was that a lot of the time they do understand a lot of english. but play dumb.
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Old 07-22-2011, 11:48 PM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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...Walked to school in the snow, uphill both ways, I know...

I'm really interested in your elaboration of the "citizenship papers", and identifying that your ancestors (all of them) came "legally". Did they come with the advance permission of the United States? The origin of the Italian-American slur "WOP" came from "WithOut Papers", meaning that the Italians often just arrived here.



Sure, let's have the strictest laws, which would have prevented most of that immigration in the past. Once those people become our citizens, they are our problem to deal with, we can't pass them off elsewhere. Too bad we don't have enough of that moxie your Italians ancestors did, getting to work (in English) when it was tough times.

Talked to my Deceased Ancestors last night late. They all would like a word with you?

And how dare you comapre my Ancestors who sweat and went thru so much heartache, to become citizens. To those lawbreakers who come here illegally, and break our laws, know what you talking about, before you make statements, you know nothing about?
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Old 07-23-2011, 12:52 AM
 
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Talked to my Deceased Ancestors last night late. They all would like a word with you?

And how dare you comapre my Ancestors who sweat and went thru so much heartache, to become citizens. To those lawbreakers who come here illegally, and break our laws, know what you talking about, before you make statements, you know nothing about?
You mean the ones that crossed over on a boat, signed a piece of paper, and become citizens?
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Old 07-23-2011, 01:11 AM
 
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You mean the ones that crossed over on a boat, signed a piece of paper, and become citizens?
In other words, the ones who entered this country legally after first getting permission from our government.
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Old 07-23-2011, 02:15 AM
 
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You mean the ones that crossed over on a boat, signed a piece of paper, and become citizens?
That's not how all the ancestors of Americans came. Some came in slave ships. You do realize not all Americans came from Europe don't you?

How people got here 300 or 400 years ago though is not the issue. We cannot control what happened 400 years ago, and it has no bearing on policies today.

We are a post NAFTA nation where very few jobs are created but also we are a giant welfare nation where many illegals can come and give birth and never have to worry about work.

There are roughly one million jobs in agriculture and the number of agricultural jobs are falling. We simply do not need 30 million agricultural workers.
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