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Old 07-24-2011, 12:54 PM
 
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Illegal immigrants: Obama targets employers instead of workers but mass deportations persist

This is the only real way to stop illegal immigration. When we had an issue with accounting issues brought to light by the Enron scandal, Sarbanes Oxley was passed holding CEO's accountable. Companies immediately changed behavior.

The administration is now holding employers accountable. That means that they'll be much more prone to stop hiring illegals. No jobs for illegals means no reason for them to come to the United States.

Previous strategies focused on expensive fences, etc, that only served to benefit defense contractors. With a real focus being put on employers, the government is trying to actually do something that works.
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Old 07-24-2011, 01:08 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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While I certainly agree that we must focus on those employing illegal aliens, as long as violators continue to receive a slap on the wrist, nothing will change. If Obama truly wanted to tackle this problem, he would make E-Verify mandatory for all employers; he would not have issued a directive to ICE to only apprehend and deport “criminal aliens”; and he would not allow thousands scheduled for immigration/deportation hearings to be released without a hearing, to freely remain in this country. He would also not make promises to pass amnesty legislation. The “focus on employers” is nothing but window dressing.
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Old 07-24-2011, 03:07 PM
 
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No, it's not window dressing at all. All of those other ideas require a large concerted effort and in the end may not work. The number of employers is a LOT smaller than the number of illegals. Once they stop hiring, the problem takes care of itself.
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Old 07-24-2011, 04:23 PM
 
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Obviously the OP didn't see this other thread here about obama's enforcement...

Illegal alien deported 15 times:

2 sets of laws, criminal alien deported 15 times.

Now this is what the OP calls obama's enforcement

In obamaland this counts as 15 illegal aliens deported

And I wish the OP could tell me if obama is going after employers of illegal aliens why is it obama and his administration are against E-Verify?

And lets not forget obama is in campaign mode so everything coming out of his mouth and his actions are suspect...

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Old 07-24-2011, 05:50 PM
 
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No, it's not window dressing at all. All of those other ideas require a large concerted effort and in the end may not work. The number of employers is a LOT smaller than the number of illegals. Once they stop hiring, the problem takes care of itself.
What concerted effort? E-Verify is already being used, and there is zero cost for employers to implement. The illegals released were already scheduled for hearings. In fact, many were in their assigned courtrooms, when they were suddenly released without a hearing, and are now free as birds. Not to mention, Obama’s pandering and promises of amnesty. Sorry, but you’ll have to try to sell your, “Obama is enforcing immigration laws” elsewhere. Most on this forum know better.

You make it sound so simple. But, they won’t stop hiring until ALL of our immigration laws are enforced, which would include harsh penalties for violators. Now, illegal employers simply consider their fines another cost of doing business. I wouldn’t be surprised if they have accrual accounts established just to cover these particular fines. Our immigration enforcement is a joke. Otherwise, people would be afraid to live in this country illegally, instead of flaunting their illegal status, and laughing in our faces.
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Old 07-24-2011, 07:01 PM
 
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No, it's not window dressing at all. All of those other ideas require a large concerted effort and in the end may not work. The number of employers is a LOT smaller than the number of illegals. Once they stop hiring, the problem takes care of itself.
Except that jobs aren't the only magnet enticing illegals to come here. Come here and produce a few anchors and you don't have to work for years. Ending birthright citizenship should be a top priority in putting a crimp in illegal immigration. Implementing E-verify and coming down hard on the employers are also in my top three.
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Old 07-26-2011, 12:37 PM
 
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Nothing is going to change. (Can you tell I am having a down day....<s>)
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Old 07-30-2011, 11:31 AM
 
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No, it's not window dressing at all. All of those other ideas require a large concerted effort and in the end may not work. The number of employers is a LOT smaller than the number of illegals. Once they stop hiring, the problem takes care of itself.
Are you sure?

If Obama was enforcing the laws, he would lose the support of La Raza. The pro-illegal side seems to be supportive of Obama -- they would not be if he was for the laws.
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Old 07-30-2011, 11:50 AM
 
Location: Pa
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I struggle with the title of this thread.
To be specific the word ( Properly). This would indicate that this admin is hunting down ilegals and holding them accountable. Yes it has started reacting to public outcry and demands. It is simply doing the minimum it can to avoid taking the heat any admin should take for thier failures.
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Old 07-30-2011, 12:10 PM
 
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I struggle with the title of this thread.
To be specific the word ( Properly). This would indicate that this admin is hunting down ilegals and holding them accountable. Yes it has started reacting to public outcry and demands. It is simply doing the minimum it can to avoid taking the heat any admin should take for thier failures.
Absolutely! If our immigration laws were actually being “properly” enforced, we wouldn’t be in this mess.
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