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Old 07-28-2011, 02:03 PM
 
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Not one poster realizing that this bill is about private financing. Not one. The most there is about public financing in the article is a guess that maybe it would happen in the future.

This bill allows private individuals and groups to provide scholarships, it's not taxpayer money.

How about we have a citizenship test where the only criteria is the ability to read the first paragraph of a newspaper article?
Thank you!

 
Old 07-28-2011, 02:04 PM
 
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Maybe you should check the earlier parts of this thread to see my thoughts on all this.

In the meantime, this bill is NOT ABOUT TAXPAYER MONEY. Period. It's about private financing for illegal immigrants.
Your forgetting about the 3 years of high school funded by tax payers. Even if the tuition is covered by private financing many schools are public institutions, still funded by tax payers. Besides all of that is a moot point according to the latest article.


"A day after Gov. Jerry Brown signed a law giving thousands of illegal immigrant college students access to private scholarship funds, immigrant advocates said they are aiming for a far bigger prize: California public grants."


California Dream Act: Activists look to the next step in financial assistance - latimes.com
 
Old 07-28-2011, 02:09 PM
 
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Your forgetting about the 3 years of high school funded by tax payers. Even if the tuition is covered by private financing many schools are public institutions, still funded by tax payers. Besides all of that is a moot point according to the latest article.


"A day after Gov. Jerry Brown signed a law giving thousands of illegal immigrant college students access to private scholarship funds, immigrant advocates said they are aiming for a far bigger prize: California public grants."


California Dream Act: Activists look to the next step in financial assistance - latimes.com
It's not a moot point, that latter legislation has not been passed. It's pretty weird for someone to create a thread linking to an article about one piece of legislation and use it entirely to talk about a separate piece of unpassed legislation.

And wtf does the high school financing have to do with it again? And 3 years? Did they cut a year off of high school?
 
Old 07-28-2011, 02:20 PM
 
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It's not a moot point, that latter legislation has not been passed. It's pretty weird for someone to create a thread linking to an article about one piece of legislation and use it entirely to talk about a separate piece of unpassed legislation.

And wtf does the high school financing have to do with it again? And 3 years? Did they cut a year off of high school?
I guarantee it will pass, the lunatics of CA won't stop there.

And here's your answer to your second question.

The bill, dubbed the California Dream Act, passed the state Legislature earlier this month and aims at helping illegal immigrants who earned a diploma after attending at least three years of high school in the state.

California "Dream Act" approved for illegal immigrants - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/california-dream-act-approved-illegal-immigrants-013617230.html - broken link)

It's clear you don't have all the facts.
 
Old 07-28-2011, 03:13 PM
 
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Now comes the California Dream Act, part two – the hard part.

Cedillo’s second bill, still working its way through the Legislature, would allow undocumented immigrant students to be eligible for tuition assistance from public, TAXPAYER sources, as well.

the government may think that they have the upper hand here, but the people STILL hold the power. if americans get disgusted enough, i suggest that they withhold property taxes until congress is brought in line. that is something that every american could do, and it is something that the congress would pay attention to.

clearly, letters and phone calls mean nothing to our so-called "leaders".

no matter how something starts, it always winds up falling on the backs of the taxpayers.

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Old 07-28-2011, 05:53 PM
 
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I guarantee it will pass, the lunatics of CA won't stop there.

And here's your answer to your second question.

The bill, dubbed the California Dream Act, passed the state Legislature earlier this month and aims at helping illegal immigrants who earned a diploma after attending at least three years of high school in the state.

California "Dream Act" approved for illegal immigrants - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/california-dream-act-approved-illegal-immigrants-013617230.html - broken link)

It's clear you don't have all the facts.
Wow, bold that "answer to my second question" without noticing that it doesn't assist your general point. The bill does not provide funding for those three years of high school, it seems that it allows for private financing only when the person has completed those three years.
 
Old 07-28-2011, 05:56 PM
 
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BTW can't wait for 131 to pass.

You Californians can rest easy knowing that illegal immigrants will assimilate way faster than you seem to think.
 
Old 07-28-2011, 06:55 PM
 
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Cool story. I'd go ahead and guess, as long as we're guessing, that most people also would differentiate between the value of college educated and uneducated people, illegal or not.
Education may be an indicator of academic achievement, but it does not determine one’s “value” as a human being. No, that is gauged by character.
 
Old 07-28-2011, 06:56 PM
 
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Education may be an indicator of academic achievement, but it does not determine one’s “value” as a human being. No, that is gauged by character.
Great, shockingly irrelevant point.
 
Old 07-28-2011, 07:02 PM
 
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Great, shockingly irrelevant point.
So, I guess you didn’t comment on the “value” of an educated versus uneducated immigrant, illegal or otherwise?
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