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Old 07-27-2011, 11:22 PM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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Lol, no. Even if that estimate isn't a gross exaggeration that $118B won't even come close to covering the interest on our debt let alone stave off some hypothetical catastrophic bankruptcy. This is quite the spectacular illusion these guys are pushing.
And to say 350,000 births cost $118 billion annually isn't doing the math, or saying where he got the "estimate" from...
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Old 07-27-2011, 11:47 PM
 
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If a woman who isn't a legal US citizen comes into the US illegally for the sole purpose of having a child on our soil so that child can then be a US citizen and take advantage of our social services then yes, it is a clear abuse of the 14th amendment. This has nothing to do with "brown kids" so put the race card back in your pocket.
How is this clear? Please cite where it says birthright citizenship is only supposed to be for... whichever people you think it's supposed to be for?
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Old 07-27-2011, 11:52 PM
 
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It's about brown kids getting what they're entitled to.
Not all anchor babies are "brown kids".
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Old 07-28-2011, 08:20 AM
 
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Not all anchor babies are "brown kids".
Yes, there are just enough tokens so that someone could plausibly claim that such opposition is not racist. But come on, we're all adults here, we're not that stupid. I mean Grandfather Clauses didn't specifically mention brown people either, but we all know what they were about.
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Old 07-28-2011, 08:40 AM
 
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Not all anchor babies are "brown kids".
Don't ya just love the not so subtle hints of the race card being pulled?
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Old 07-28-2011, 08:42 AM
 
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I never understood why hispanics call themselves brown when they clearly have white & black hispanics??????
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Old 07-28-2011, 08:42 AM
 
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The Constitution says NO

The price of freedom.
Since when can't there be an amendment to the Constitution?
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Old 07-28-2011, 12:19 PM
 
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Don't ya just love the not so subtle hints of the race card being pulled?
You mean when people post photoshopped drivers licenses (literally cards!) with mustached, sombrero-wearing, dirty, sweaty, mexicans pictured? Because that seems like the opposite of subtle IYAM.
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Old 07-28-2011, 12:27 PM
 
Location: Pa
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The current interpretation is that children born here of illegals are citizens. I doubt the authors of the 14th had that in mind. Why would they it was a different world then. That's why the constitution is an ever evolving document. I doubt our forefathers ever dreamed lawyers would evolve into the slime that they have either.
So whats to be done? try to amend the 14th.
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Old 07-28-2011, 04:12 PM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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The current interpretation is that children born here of illegals are citizens. I doubt the authors of the 14th had that in mind. Why would they it was a different world then. That's why the constitution is an ever evolving document. I doubt our forefathers ever dreamed lawyers would evolve into the slime that they have either.
So whats to be done? try to amend the 14th.
Do we also need to change the 2nd Amendment because of assault rifles?...
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