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Old 07-27-2011, 02:25 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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You brought up President Obama in the illegal immigration forum and you make this statement?

The whole thread is based on tossing Obama under the bus on immigration, and ignoring the policies held from both sides for centuries.
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Old 07-27-2011, 02:27 AM
 
Location: In this horrid OBOMINATION
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Wasn't the OP specifically calling Obama out?

Do you own a small business?
Calling him out- no

stating that he is polarizing the nation has more to do with his economic policies and his tax and spend mindset

no where in the op did i mention obama's immigration policies
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Old 07-27-2011, 02:40 AM
 
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Calling him out- no

stating that he is polarizing the nation has more to do with his economic policies and his tax and spend mindset
What's the difference?

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no where in the op did i mention obama's immigration policies
Nowhere is one word and this is the illegal immigration forum you know. Not to mention that your thread is about illegal immigration.
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Old 07-27-2011, 03:11 AM
 
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Not sure why you would focus on Obama, being that his administration is deporting twice as many immigrants as Bush.

They might be getting deported but they are coming right back across the border into America.....

Witness the OP a few days ago concerning an illegal alien who has up to this point been deported 15 times, some of his crimes if an American citizen did them would wind up in prison for 50 years.
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Old 07-27-2011, 05:43 AM
 
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They might be getting deported but they are coming right back across the border into America.....

Witness the OP a few days ago concerning an illegal alien who has up to this point been deported 15 times, some of his crimes if an American citizen did them would wind up in prison for 50 years.
you need border protection, something that this administration has been opposed to.

anybody can look up obama's record on illegal immigration, foreign debt forgiveness, his DREAM act sponsorship, etc.

he is a globalist and has been pro illegal immigration since he was elected to congress.

sign me up for an illegal free community. it would be nice to start with people who don't think it is okay to break our laws.
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Old 07-27-2011, 06:48 AM
 
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lol
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Old 07-27-2011, 06:58 AM
 
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The part where Bush gets a free pass and Obama gets trashed, even though is record is better than Bush's.
Bush did push amnesty and for that I hold him just as accountable as Obama. As for Obama's deportation record he is only deporting known criminal aliens when they all need to be deported.
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Old 07-27-2011, 07:22 AM
 
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Not sure why you would focus on Obama, being that his administration is deporting twice as many immigrants as Bush.



Yet Obama wants amnesty.
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Old 07-27-2011, 07:34 AM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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The idea has crossed my mind recently and I think it can be done. Shaping the political landscape and law enforcement framework in order to accomplish this would be the first major components.

Organization can be easily started on the social media modes of communication.
Of course having a 100% conservative state will not be possible; However achieving a place where immigration laws are 100% enforced will be.

My vision would include an application process to screen potential applicants to ensure they were citizens, non criminals, and center to right politically.

Over 55 communities exist, Amish Communities Indian Reservations exist, College Campuses exist, and with a well developed plan we can have a conservative, illegal alien free community.

Once we establish a foundation, we can expand our footprint, stretching our base farther until we occupy an entire state. We can still use state and federal resources, just like illegal aliens do. It is time for the left and the illegal aliens to fear our expansion, our ideals, our way of life.

Like minded individuals need to assemble and grow our political clout. This is obviously a hypothetical scenario but:

1-Would you be interested? and
2-Could it be done given today's super polarized nation?
3-Which county/state should we start in your opinion?

It seems like NOW is the time. Obama has polarized this nation more than ever. Time for a change
Apartheidt?
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Old 07-27-2011, 07:06 PM
 
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I've said it before. The best way to deal with illegal immigration is through employers.

If an employer hires an illegal, he should be fined heavily. That will eliminate demand for immigants in this county. They will leave and new ones will stop coming in. Very simple.

Replace the illegals with a green card system...for those of you who say "they do the work the white man wont do". Fine...I find it odd though that "conservatives" support this talk, but do not when it comes to paying more for wages...then the illegals are ok...just as long as its their business interests...

On another closed thread I saw responses about how "oh boy blame the employer" Yes that is correct. The only reason, someone comes to the U.S. is because they can find employment, have a legal kid, and now obtain educational funding/loans etc.

If you want to end illegal immigration, change the federal laws first so they cant be challenged.
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