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Old 07-30-2011, 12:30 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Rockmadinejad View Post
I'm not second guessing your motives. I'm telling you that you will come out on the side of whatever makes illegal immigrants look the worst, regardless of logical consistency. I'm sorry that my estimates offend you, I'm sure one day you'll think of something illegal immigrants do that you do not oppose.

I'm glad that you abhor the mistreatment of children. No one said otherwise.
Do you know any illegal immigrants? Personally?

 
Old 07-30-2011, 12:32 PM
 
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Do you know any illegal immigrants? Personally?
I've met illegal immigrants before, sure.
 
Old 07-30-2011, 12:40 PM
 
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Sounds like a good reason to make it easier for people to legally enter the US. Then the kids wouldn't be left behind since the crossing is so dangerous.
You're wrong. Look at the EU. People from Eastern Europe move legally in Italy, France, UK or other Western European countries but leave their kids single at home!
 
Old 07-30-2011, 12:46 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Originally Posted by Rockmadinejad View Post
I'm not second guessing your motives. I'm telling you that you will come out on the side of whatever makes illegal immigrants look the worst, regardless of logical consistency. I'm sorry that my estimates offend you, I'm sure one day you'll think of something illegal immigrants do that you do not oppose.

I'm glad that you abhor the mistreatment of children. No one said otherwise.
This is a joke, right? You have consistently shown that you will NEVER condemn ANY illegal alien behavior. Yet, you dare accuse me of lacking objectivity. Please. Sorry, but there is nothing I can think of regarding illegal immigration that warrants my support.

Edit: Your “estimates” don’t offend me. I simply want you to prove your estimates are at least somewhat accurate. Now, you either can, or you can’t. Since you have chosen to ignore my request, I will assume you can’t.
 
Old 07-30-2011, 12:47 PM
 
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I've met illegal immigrants before, sure.
So have many of us. One illegal I know does still send money home to his kids but has gone over 6 years without seeing them. I hear of how they cry, they want to see him, they are growing up with no parent, their mother too is out of the picture.

I also know of an illegal woman who doesn't know if she'll ever see her kids, all she has of them is a crumpled photo of them. But no way does she have the education or job skills to support four kids here in this country. She cannot speak English, her health is poor, all she can do is clean houses and not all that well. She cannot afford groceries for 4 kids here, much less housing costs, electric bills. Cleaning houses a couple days a week for a few dollars just doesn't cut it.
 
Old 07-30-2011, 12:48 PM
 
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This is a joke, right? You have consistently shown that you will NEVER condemn ANY illegal alien behavior. Yet, you dare accuse me of lacking objectivity. Please. Sorry, but there is nothing I can think of regarding illegal immigration that warrants my support.
lol, I'm pretty sure I'm willing to condemn anyone's behavior as long as I feel they've done something wrong.
 
Old 07-30-2011, 12:51 PM
 
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So have many of us. One illegal I know does still send money home to his kids but has gone over 6 years without seeing them. I hear of how they cry, they want to see him, they are growing up with no parent, their mother too is out of the picture.
Sounds awful. Since it's not inherent to illegal immigration at all, I'm not sure what I'm supposed to be inferring from this.
 
Old 07-30-2011, 12:55 PM
 
Location: New Hampshire
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Why is it that "going to the United States to "work"? Is the only option? Can you imagine if every single person in Mexico, Central and South America who is struggling to support their families decided to come here? We already have too many illegal aliens who don't belong here and in turn Americans who can't even support their families due to job losses and etc.

Why do you supporters defend illegal aliens? What about your fellow Americans? Do you even care?

It is plain disgusting.
 
Old 07-30-2011, 12:56 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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lol, I'm pretty sure I'm willing to condemn anyone's behavior as long as I feel they've done something wrong.
Right. So, I suppose ID theft, myriads acts of fraud, tax evasion, DUI, rape, murder, gangbanging, pedophilia, drug/human trafficking, are a-okay in your opinion. If you have condemned illegal aliens, you certainly have not done it on this forum. At least, I have not seen it.
 
Old 07-30-2011, 12:58 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Sounds awful. Since it's not inherent to illegal immigration at all, I'm not sure what I'm supposed to be inferring from this.
I am still waiting for your proof that only a “tiny minority” of illegal aliens leave their children behind.
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