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Old 08-08-2011, 07:18 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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It's in the constitution, so Congress actually can't do that.
Please link to the section that requires citizenship to be granted to the children of ILLEGAL ALIENS.
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Old 08-08-2011, 07:22 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Sadly, this discussion has been had here before by people who are pretty experienced in legal thingies. The law has been established clearly by the Supreme Court, and is in line with a long history of common law jurisprudence dating back centuries.
Again, please link to the Supreme Court ruling re: U.S. citizenship to the US-born children of ILLEGAL ALIENS. Sorry, but the Supreme Court has yet to rule on such.
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Old 08-08-2011, 07:51 PM
 
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No, citizenship status should not be determined by the "moral fiber" of the parents. But, it should be determined by the parents’ citizenship status.
OH I GET IT NOW. So when you say the 14th Amendment has been "bastardized," you mean the perfect idealized version of it that exists in your head, right? Not the actual version that was passed by congress and ratified by the several states.

OK, now we understand each other.
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Old 08-08-2011, 08:04 PM
 
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Wrong and wrong. The Supreme Court has made numerous correct interpretations of the 14th Amendment in addition to its incorrect interpretations. Normal jurisprudence is that anchor babies are not citizens. We are the only country in the world with this insane policy.
Wow, can you provide a citation to this "normal jurisprudence"???

Also, please provide the cheat sheet that gives the CORRECT interpretations of the Constitution? You should probably tell everyone about this, since it will save everyone a lot of time and money and effort they currently use trying to decide these things. There might even be like a Nobel Prize in it for you or something, because this will certainly be groundbreaking.

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Not only CAN Congress amend the Constitution to close this anchor baby loophole, this is actually the ONLY THING Congress should do about our invasion. The media keep pretending that Congress is the one who should address this crisis. Our problem is in law enforcement, which is the job of the Executive Branch of the government. The problem is that one White House regime after another has neglected its duty to enforce the border.
Congress cannot amend the constitution. Congress can propose amendments.
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Old 08-08-2011, 08:13 PM
 
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Wrong and wrong. The Supreme Court has made numerous correct interpretations of the 14th Amendment in addition to its incorrect interpretations. Normal jurisprudence is that anchor babies are not citizens. We are the only country in the world with this insane policy.
Every factual assertion you make here is incorrect.

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Not only CAN Congress amend the Constitution to close this anchor baby loophole, this is actually the ONLY THING Congress should do about our invasion.
Two factually incorrect assertions in one sentence WHAT WILL HE DO NEXT
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Old 08-08-2011, 08:56 PM
 
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OH I GET IT NOW. So when you say the 14th Amendment has been "bastardized," you mean the perfect idealized version of it that exists in your head, right? Not the actual version that was passed by congress and ratified by the several states.

OK, now we understand each other.
No, clearly from your comments, we don’t.
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Old 08-08-2011, 08:59 PM
 
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Please link to the section that requires citizenship to be granted to the children of ILLEGAL ALIENS.
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Again, please link to the Supreme Court ruling re: U.S. citizenship to the US-born children of ILLEGAL ALIENS. Sorry, but the Supreme Court has yet to rule on such.
Rocky, I’m still waiting. . . .
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Old 08-08-2011, 09:24 PM
 
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Again, please link to the Supreme Court ruling re: U.S. citizenship to the US-born children of ILLEGAL ALIENS. Sorry, but the Supreme Court has yet to rule on such.
The question hasn't been brought in so many terms, if that's what you mean. But yes, the Supreme Court has effectively ruled on this. The Plyler v. Doe court said things like:

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no plausible distinction with respect to Fourteenth Amendment "jurisdiction" can be drawn between resident aliens whose entry into the United States was lawful, and resident aliens whose entry was unlawful.
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Old 08-08-2011, 09:43 PM
 
Location: Tempe, Az
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Sadly, this discussion has been had here before by people who are pretty experienced in legal thingies. The law has been established clearly by the Supreme Court, and is in line with a long history of common law jurisprudence dating back centuries.
Laws CAN be changd an birthright WILL be going away soon.
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Old 08-08-2011, 09:44 PM
 
Location: Tempe, Az
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The question hasn't been brought in so many terms, if that's what you mean. But yes, the Supreme Court has effectively ruled on this. The Plyler v. Doe court said things like:
Link please.
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