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Old 08-06-2011, 01:44 PM
 
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Because THEY are our fellow Americans. They belong to this country, like it or not. Or where would you have them go?

Why bring in truckloads of needy foreigners when so many Americans are going without?

Why do you despise the American people so that you want their jobs exported or cheap laboreres imported to replace them?
I'm not telling "them" to go anywhere.

I'm not advocating "bringing in truckloads" of people.

I don't despise the American people. I just don't think they're better than other human beings by virtue of being born on a particular side of an imaginary line.

The pattern of you constantly and purposefully misrepresenting other people's posts pretty much speaks for itself.
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Old 08-06-2011, 02:02 PM
 
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I don't despise the American people. I just don't think they're better than other human beings by virtue of being born on a particular side of an imaginary line.
Wars have been fought over where to place "imaginary lines" between countries. Most countries today have military troops or border patrol agents securing the "imaginary lines" between their country and neighboring countries. So these "imaginary lines" seem to be pretty important, at least to most people.
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Old 08-06-2011, 02:05 PM
 
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Wars have been fought over where to place "imaginary lines" between countries. Most countries today have military troops or border patrol agents securing the "imaginary lines" between their country and neighboring countries. So these "imaginary lines" seem to be pretty important, at least to most people.
Yes, so? They're still imaginary and don't make people born on one side magically superior to those born on the other side. Lots of people believed the sun revolved around the earth, that the world was flat, and all sorts of other ridiculous stuff that we laugh at now, too.
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Old 08-06-2011, 02:54 PM
 
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I'm not telling "them" to go anywhere.

I'm not advocating "bringing in truckloads" of people.

I don't despise the American people. I just don't think they're better than other human beings by virtue of being born on a particular side of an imaginary line.

The pattern of you constantly and purposefully misrepresenting other people's posts pretty much speaks for itself.
Imaginary line? Well if so it's a ONE-WAY imaginary line because Americans cannot go into Mexico and take whatever job they please, nor can we buy up land, build businesses without permission and so on. And try showing up in a Mexican hospital and tell them you expect to receive no bill or make no payment.

And Mexico ironically does have immigration laws.
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Old 08-06-2011, 05:19 PM
 
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No --- that's exactly what it is. Some of us see our fellow Americans as "our people" and not some 20th cousin in some other country who we have no bond with whatsoever except some "ethnic" bond.
The fact that this, in your eyes, needs no further justification, is literally - literally in the literal sense of the term literally - both the result and the promulgation of the most damaging human instincts that the world has ever known.
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Old 08-06-2011, 06:59 PM
 
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I agree, they shouldn't have to compete with illegal immigrants. Immigration should be much easier so that those immigrants would be legal.
Those people need to get in line. NO cuttin in front of people who do things right. If that makes some amnesty people mad, they can deal with it. The USA will decide whose let in, NOT a bunch of illegal aliens.
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Old 08-06-2011, 07:58 PM
 
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It's far from racist to care more about your unemployed fellow American and want jobs for them over the people of the nation some long ago ancestor arrived from.

That's why you don't see whites or blacks out rioting in the streets demanding unlimited immigration from Europe or Africa. They don't have that La Raza attitude that certain ethnicities are above the laws just because they may be of those ethnicities.
Amen!
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Old 08-06-2011, 08:07 PM
 
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It´s less of an ¨ancestor worship¨ than the flawed perspective I´ve seen here fully glorifying ancestors over reality. I find my study of ancestry (where I also participate in the ¨Genealogy¨ subforum on City-Data) fascinating for the humanness of those that came before me. The contribution to my identity is realizing that all of those backgrounds are combined to make me who I am.

I´m comfortable within my skin and self-awareness. Whether that makes others uncomfortable is not my concern. We each have our own paths to take.
Nothing wrong with being proud of one's roots as long as they are American first. It is odd to me however that any American could stop identifying with their own country though and start to identify with another country and its citizens instead.
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Old 08-06-2011, 08:12 PM
 
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Imaginary line? Well if so it's a ONE-WAY imaginary line because Americans cannot go into Mexico and take whatever job they please, nor can we buy up land, build businesses without permission and so on. And try showing up in a Mexican hospital and tell them you expect to receive no bill or make no payment.

And Mexico ironically does have immigration laws.
I'd like to know by what bizarre thinking that one could state that Americans claiming their rights as citizens in this country above illegal foreigners somehow equates to having a superior attitude.
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Old 08-06-2011, 11:27 PM
 
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Nothing wrong with being proud of one's roots as long as they are American first. It is odd to me however that any American could stop identifying with their own country though and start to identify with another country and its citizens instead.
So if your family roots are not american, you can not be proud of them...
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