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Old 08-10-2011, 06:52 AM
 
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you will need one for the PoE now to get back into the United States
Minor nitpick, but I'm pretty sure this isn't true. Legally, the US must allow US citizens to re-enter the US, regardless of whether they have a passport or not, right?

They might make it really, really unpleasant and time consuming (and I'm sure they will) but they can't just keep you out.
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Old 08-10-2011, 09:56 AM
 
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Minor nitpick, but I'm pretty sure this isn't true. Legally, the US must allow US citizens to re-enter the US, regardless of whether they have a passport or not, right?

They might make it really, really unpleasant and time consuming (and I'm sure they will) but they can't just keep you out.
They can and can detain you.
Try it some day
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Old 08-10-2011, 11:52 AM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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Minor nitpick, but I'm pretty sure this isn't true. Legally, the US must allow US citizens to re-enter the US, regardless of whether they have a passport or not, right?

They might make it really, really unpleasant and time consuming (and I'm sure they will) but they can't just keep you out.
My last entry without a passport was just a few days before the policy went into effect (it has been in place over two years). I was traveling close to the border and decided to turn in my expiring FMT. The CBP officer had me do a verbal declaration of U.S. citizenship to come through the Santa Teresa PoE.

An inspector can refuse entry to anyone but a U.S. citizen (the so-called "9/11 20th Hijacker" was not allowed through a PoE from Canada despite having a valid visa, because the inspector had a feeling something was wrong). Also witness the returning U.S. citizen with tuberculous (also entering from Canada) that couldn't be refused entry, and was detained medically after crossing. Under the current rules, no U.S. passport can mean you are refused entry.

It would be at the inspector's discretion...
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Old 08-15-2011, 05:08 PM
 
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Hispanic doesn't really denote ethnicity or even race. One can be black and be Hispanic (see baseball if you don't believe me). One can be Jewish and be Hispanic. There are Asian Hispanics. Domincans and Peruvians are both Hispanic, and aren't the same ethnically for the most part.

At the end of the day i don't care, i'm just being factual. Hispanic means being Hispanicized....and no one is more Hispanicized than an actual Spaniard. I mean...come on. It's just common sense.

This stuff is all about the "we don't wanna be lumped in with them" syndrome.
People are individuals, they do not think or behave in "lumps", another post here from an anglo guy states that he tries to behave as far from a red neck as possible, so that he is not lumped in that group, and I agree, actions is what makes you what you truly are.....
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Old 02-14-2012, 01:21 PM
 
Location: Cali
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You probably don't know many spaniards, I am Spanish and identify with the rest of spanish speaking people from the americas, all the compatriots that I know also feel the same way, our language is like a priced possesion, there are many differences among hispanic( hispanic comes from spanish ) but our common denominator is spanish and it unites us....
There are indians throughout Latin America who speak no Spanish and have no desire to learn it.
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Old 02-14-2012, 03:00 PM
 
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One thing my fellow spaniards are proud of, is the spread of spanish culture, all over the world, but mostly in the americas, hispanics of all the spanish colonies converge peacefully in spain, there have been issues with specific individuals from abroad that cause problems as you would expect, but xenophobia as you imply, is just not true. Spain is a magnet for people from all over the world that seek a really nice place to live and enjoy life, while devoid of the racial tensions and violence of places like the usa...

Give. Me. A. Break!

Gypsies and Morroccans might have a different perspective. Oh yeah, the Basque also are a source of "ethnic tension" aren't they? And let's not forget Catalan separatists.Black sportsmen and formula one racers being heckled, confronted with crowds painted in blackface, called monkey, etc.

Racism in Spain Continues to Rear Its Ugly Head - BV on Sports

Not to mention the entire Latin American colorism hierarchy directly attributed to Spanish colonial rule, where the lighter you are, the better -- a place where there is/was a complex system in place that classified everyone based on their particular mixture.
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Old 02-14-2012, 03:10 PM
 
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Most of the illegals here are not pure Spaniards anyway. Most of them are Mestizo Mexicans.
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Old 02-16-2012, 03:34 AM
 
Location: Too far from home.
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LOL. Yes clearly they are so different. Maybe you should inform those farmers of the scourge. I mean, they are trying to make it easier for people who would enter illegally to get here in a legal manner so they do not have to pay coyotes, commit ID fraud, etc. I'm pretty sure this is because they also believe those would be illegals are hard workers and they probably don't want to get in trouble. Don't they know it's the scourge?!?! Herp a derp.
Illegals working farms are a small segment of the illegal population. Just how many states are there where farming is a major source? I get the need for farmers hiring illegals - especially when they need to export produce to make money!!!! Farmers also receive subsidies from government.

There are no farms in New York City and the 5 boroughs. But my guess is that if the pizza stores didn't hire illegals to make pizza, there would be very little pizza to be had in New York. Grocery store shelves wouldn't be stocked if the owners couldn't hire illegals. Small business wouldn't be able to make deliveries due to lack of illegals working for them. Forget about having your food order delivered - you would have to cook it yourself or go get the food yourself!!!
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Old 02-16-2012, 03:41 AM
 
Location: Too far from home.
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There are indians throughout Latin America who speak no Spanish and have no desire to learn it.
I just noticed that you are responding to a post from July 2011!!!
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Old 02-16-2012, 07:09 AM
 
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There are indians throughout Latin America who speak no Spanish and have no desire to learn it.
you are right, less than 0.1% of the population, just like in usa and canada......
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