Mexico, 15 other nations file briefs against Alabama immigration law

[Benicar]

Originally Posted by rhymetime

Ah, yeah, it's not like there are no local laws against drugs, or regulating firearms, etc. Seriously, firearms regulations specifically are probably the MOST variable from state to state. I don't see how anyone who is actually thinking about this enough to post in this thread could think that "firearm violations" are some unambiguously federal offense.

There are countless state and local immigration laws. That doesn’t change the fact that immigration ultimately falls under the purview of the federal government. The same is true for drug offenses and weapons violations. When violators are prosecuted, it is under federal statute. Again, they are FEDERAL laws.

[rhymetime]

Originally Posted by Benicar

There are countless state and local immigration laws. That doesn’t change the fact that immigration ultimately falls under the purview of the federal government. The same is true for drug offenses and weapons violations. When violators are prosecuted, it is under federal statute. Again, they are FEDERAL laws.

This is not true in the general case. There are some specific cases where you can find local authorities turning guys over to the feds but it's pretty rare. The federal system is pretty small relatively.

[Arjay51]

Originally Posted by rhymetime

So the feds need the states to do their work for them, that's why the feds are suing states that do their work for them.

Yes, please insert more knowledge.

Similar to the federal position of serving the people while truly wanting to have the people serve them. Knowledge. You know, what you do your best to ignore.

[btownboss4]

well lets do what America Does best, counter-sue then Bomb them

[IBMMuseum]

Originally Posted by rhymetime

...Seriously, firearms regulations specifically are probably the MOST variable from state to state. I don't see how anyone who is actually thinking about this enough to post in this thread could think that "firearm violations" are some unambiguously federal offense.

Exactly, in my state I can carry a loaded, concealed gun on my person while remaining in my vehicle, and am not required to declare it to police on a traffic stop, all lawfully without any permit. If I were caught doing the same in another (primarily East Coast) state it would probably get a prison term of at least a few years. New Mexico laws treat an unloaded firearm as a piece of metal, and are more strict on bladed weapons (not bound to blade length, but whether it can give wounds by thrusting or slashing).

[tigrs99]

Originally Posted by Benicar

Of course states enforce federal laws, as do local jurisdictions. Can’t state and local police arrest for drug possession, firearm violations, ID theft, fraud, embezzlement? All are federal offenses. They certainly don’t have to ignore drug dealers or gun-toting gangbangers until officials from the DEA or ATF arrive to handle matters. Likewise, they should have the authority to enforce immigration laws.

Being Illegal Immigrant is not a criminal offense unless someone is deported
and found in US without authorization
By law State can only detain someone for illegal immigration for 24 hrs
It's a discretion of ICE to detain that person or release him

[All American NYC]

Originally Posted by tigrs99

Being Illegal Immigrant is not a criminal offense unless someone is deported
and found in US without authorization
By law State can only detain someone for illegal immigration for 24 hrs
It's a discretion of ICE to detain that person or release him

So what is it?

[tigrs99]

Originally Posted by All American NYC

So what is it?

All illegal immigrants are only detained as Immigration is only a civil offense not a criminal one

[All American NYC]

Originally Posted by tigrs99

All illegal immigrants are only detained as Immigration is only a civil offense not a criminal one

They are illegal:

By definition:

not according to or authorized by law : unlawful, illicit;