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Old 08-07-2011, 03:53 PM
 
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The word Aztlan is about Mexicans forming their own country within our country and taking back lands from us that they deem stolen, bottom line. Certainly you aren't denying this? They are of the Hispanic culture, that's all.

I never said that all Mexicans are advocates of reconquista (or any other national group) but the group in this posted topic is. If you can't see that from their own words then I don't know what else to tell you.
Can you show me something that explains the definition of Aztlan? Just because they decided to name themselves that doesn't mean that's the definition of the word.

And fyi: there is no "hispanic culture." The only thing each nationality has in common with the other is the language. It's the same thing as there is no universal "european" culture, they are all different.

 
Old 08-07-2011, 04:27 PM
 
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Can you show me something that explains the definition of Aztlan? Just because they decided to name themselves that doesn't mean that's the definition of the word.

And fyi: there is no "hispanic culture." The only thing each nationality has in common with the other is the language. It's the same thing as there is no universal "european" culture, they are all different.
So you are claiming you have never heard of "Aztlan" or what it means to Mexicans? Please. Why don't you ask any of these groups quoted in the article, "Chicanos Unidos Arizona, Take Back Aztlán, and Nuestros Reconquistos"? Even in the article itself they speak of taking back lands that they claim were stolen from them by the U.S.

Yes, there is a hispanic culture. Look it up in the dictionary. It is ethnic/national groups joined together mainly by the common language of Spanish. They have many cultural similarities also. Some that are different also.

Europeans are not joined together by a common language nor common cultural practices. Each country has its own language and culture so that isn't the same thing as a hispanic culture where there is a common language. Geez, are you kidding me? Curious how old you are. These are things taught in grade school.
 
Old 08-07-2011, 04:51 PM
 
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So now the argument is "some mexicans are probably racist, therefore it's cool if I'm racist"???
 
Old 08-07-2011, 05:43 PM
 
Location: Tempe, Az
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[LEFT]The official national symbol of MEChA is an eagle holding a machete-like weapon and a stick of dynamite.
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[CENTER]WHAT IS MEChA
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The acronym MEChA stands for "Movimiento Estudiantil Chicano de Aztlan." or "Chicano Student Movement of Aztlan."



MEChA is an Hispanic separatist organization that encourages anti-American activities and civil disobedience. The radical members of MEChA who refer to themselves as "Mechistas," romanticize Mexican claims to the "lost Territories" of the Southwestern United States -- a Chicano country called Aztlan

What is Aztlan, Raza, and MEChA

Nasty people who need to be dealt with by LE.

That stuff scares ME cause I aint brown enough to look Mexican.
 
Old 08-07-2011, 05:44 PM
 
Location: Tempe, Az
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Can you show me something that explains the definition of Aztlan? Just because they decided to name themselves that doesn't mean that's the definition of the word.

And fyi: there is no "hispanic culture." The only thing each nationality has in common with the other is the language. It's the same thing as there is no universal "european" culture, they are all different.
Tell THAT to Chicanos, especialy La Raza who DONT speak Spanish.
 
Old 08-07-2011, 08:10 PM
 
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Can you show me something that explains the definition of Aztlan? Just because they decided to name themselves that doesn't mean that's the definition of the word.

And fyi: there is no "hispanic culture." The only thing each nationality has in common with the other is the language. It's the same thing as there is no universal "european" culture, they are all different.
"Aztlan" is the explanation they make for why they have a racial right to break our laws. Our immigration laws cannot apply to anyone from Mexico or Central America because according to the Aztlan myth, the Aztecs once ruled over the entire North American continent until some English speaking people took it away from them. Aztecs ruled over the Comanches, the Navaho and the Iroquois. Aztlan means people whose ancestors always lived in Chiapas now have every right to move to Chicago or New York and are not obliged to obtain work visas.

Never mind that the Aztecs ruled over only about a 35 mile radius near Mexico City and that no Aztec ever wandered north of the Rio Grande.
 
Old 08-07-2011, 08:12 PM
 
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And fyi: there is no "hispanic culture." The only thing each nationality has in common with the other is the language. It's the same thing as there is no universal "european" culture, they are all different.
A lot of "hispanics" don't speak Spanish, nor did their parents. In fact some "hispanics" still speak a Mayan dialect, and some "hispanics" can only speak English. And in northern Mexico, there are people who speak German, but as citizens of Mexico would have to be "hispanics". It's not language. But you're right, it's not culture either.
 
Old 08-07-2011, 09:14 PM
 
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[quote=malamute;20359215]A lot of "hispanics" don't speak Spanish, nor did their parents. In fact some "hispanics" still speak a Mayan dialect, and some "hispanics" can only speak English. And in northern Mexico, there are people who speak German, but as citizens of Mexico would have to be "hispanics". It's not language. But you're right, it's not culture either.[/quote

"The term has also been used to denote the culture and people of countries formerly ruled by the Spanish Empire, usually with a majority Hispanophone population. Collectively known as Hispanic America, this region includes Mexico, the majority of the Central and South American countries, and the Spanish-speaking island-nations of the Caribbean. "Hispanic" is also used by people in the United States who are of Hispanic American origin (Hispanic and Latino Americans). Cultural elements (Spanish names, the Spanish language, Spanish customs, etc.) and people known as Hispanic can also be found in other areas that were formerly part of the Spanish Empire, such as in Equatorial Guinea in Africa".

Hispanic - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
Old 08-07-2011, 10:04 PM
 
Location: Tempe, Az
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A lot of "hispanics" don't speak Spanish, nor did their parents. In fact some "hispanics" still speak a Mayan dialect, and some "hispanics" can only speak English. And in northern Mexico, there are people who speak German, but as citizens of Mexico would have to be "hispanics". It's not language. But you're right, it's not culture either.
Cant rep you but your right
 
Old 08-07-2011, 10:26 PM
 
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So it's a big deal because they're hispanic?
Not just that -- can you imagine if some White Supremist group created scholarships to reward white Europeans for getting over here illegally?
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