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Old 08-06-2011, 09:01 AM
 
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Oh dear. The former illegals have difficulty getting their money for drugs when they're deported. I guess we should bring them back here.

In Tijuana, deported migrants struggle to survive - El Paso Times

"Here on the border we hustle every day to see who can give us something to eat and (money) for drugs. Why am I going to lie?" said Macias, who is addicted to heroin. "I'm tired of this life, but the main thing is to get up in the morning with the gang and see how you are going to get something to buy food or drugs."
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Old 08-06-2011, 09:04 AM
 
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And for some irony:

Mexico's National Institute of Migration has run a program for three years whose objective is to pay the full costs for repatriated migrants to return to their hometowns and work with their home state to find them employment.

But that program is not adequately funded and requires a birth certificate or ID card to participate, said the labor department representative in Baja California, Monica Garcia. Most deportees arrive with only a deportation notice.



What happened to the Mexican government's eagerness to handout out matricula cards for IDs? Why can't it give it's returning illegals matricula cards to get on these programs?
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Old 08-06-2011, 03:22 PM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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And for some irony:

Mexico's National Institute of Migration has run a program for three years whose objective is to pay the full costs for repatriated migrants to return to their hometowns and work with their home state to find them employment.

But that program is not adequately funded and requires a birth certificate or ID card to participate, said the labor department representative in Baja California, Monica Garcia. Most deportees arrive with only a deportation notice.


What happened to the Mexican government's eagerness to handout out matricula cards for IDs? Why can't it give it's returning illegals matricula cards to get on these programs?
And also a struggle in Reynosa, for Robin Whiteley:

¨Whiteley was adopted by Texan parents days after his birth in Ciudad Juárez, Chih., in 1974. He gained permanent residency in the United States but was never granted citizenship. A felony drug conviction in 2000 stripped him of his immigration status.

(http://www.themonitor.com/articles/country-49054-mcallen-arrested.html - broken link) After serving time in a state prison, Whiteley found himself in Mexico — a country he’d never known. (http://www.themonitor.com/articles/country-49054-mcallen-arrested.html - broken link)
(http://www.themonitor.com/articles/country-49054-mcallen-arrested.html - broken link)
Since then, he’s been arrested for illegal re-entry and deported five times. Without knowing Spanish and without legal avenues to prove his citizenship — in the United States or Mexico — Whiteley had performed odd jobs to scrape together enough cash to get through the day.¨ (http://www.themonitor.com/articles/country-49054-mcallen-arrested.html - broken link)

Read the irony that Robin can´t prove any Mexican citizenship to work there either...

EDIT: To learn more about Robin, here is more details...

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Old 08-06-2011, 04:07 PM
 
Location: Tempe, Az
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And for some irony:

Mexico's National Institute of Migration has run a program for three years whose objective is to pay the full costs for repatriated migrants to return to their hometowns and work with their home state to find them employment.

But that program is not adequately funded and requires a birth certificate or ID card to participate, said the labor department representative in Baja California, Monica Garcia. Most deportees arrive with only a deportation notice.



What happened to the Mexican government's eagerness to handout out matricula cards for IDs? Why can't it give it's returning illegals matricula cards to get on these programs?
Cause Mexico dont want them. Those people COST Mexico money.
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Old 08-06-2011, 04:12 PM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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And also a struggle in Reynosa, for Robin Whiteley:

¨Whiteley was adopted by Texan parents days after his birth in Ciudad Juárez, Chih., in 1974. He gained permanent residency in the United States but was never granted citizenship. A felony drug conviction in 2000 stripped him of his immigration status.

(http://www.themonitor.com/articles/country-49054-mcallen-arrested.html - broken link)After serving time in a state prison, Whiteley found himself in Mexico — a country he’d never known. (http://www.themonitor.com/articles/country-49054-mcallen-arrested.html - broken link)
(http://www.themonitor.com/articles/country-49054-mcallen-arrested.html - broken link)
Since then, he’s been arrested for illegal re-entry and deported five times. Without knowing Spanish and without legal avenues to prove his citizenship — in the United States or Mexico — Whiteley had performed odd jobs to scrape together enough cash to get through the day.¨ (http://www.themonitor.com/articles/country-49054-mcallen-arrested.html - broken link)

Read the irony that Robin can´t prove any Mexican citizenship to work there either...

EDIT: To learn more about Robin, here is more details...

He should have thought of the consequences prior to committing the felony.

Cue violins.....my heart bleeds for this convicted felon
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Old 08-06-2011, 05:04 PM
 
Location: Mexico City, formerly Columbus, Ohio
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Dumb posts. Those that typically get deported tend to already be drug offenders or worse. I don't think anyone is suggesting that these type of illegals are good for the US in any way. I feel for those people who want to get out from the struggle of drug addiction, but at the same time, they caused their own problems and need to pull themselves out of it. There are programs out there for people who truly want the help.
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Old 08-07-2011, 10:31 AM
 
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Dumb posts. Those that typically get deported tend to already be drug offenders or worse. I don't think anyone is suggesting that these type of illegals are good for the US in any way. I feel for those people who want to get out from the struggle of drug addiction, but at the same time, they caused their own problems and need to pull themselves out of it. There are programs out there for people who truly want the help.
No -- that's not what the article says.

Most repatriated Mexicans find a way to return to their homes.

But of course no one is going to feel anything but happy for those who find their way back home, back to their families, their friends, their children. The only ones who find sorrow in that are the pro-illegals who cannot fathom that people can be happy going back home.
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Old 08-07-2011, 11:10 AM
 
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And for some irony:

Mexico's National Institute of Migration has run a program for three years whose objective is to pay the full costs for repatriated migrants to return to their hometowns and work with their home state to find them employment.

But that program is not adequately funded and requires a birth certificate or ID card to participate, said the labor department representative in Baja California, Monica Garcia. Most deportees arrive with only a deportation notice.



What happened to the Mexican government's eagerness to handout out matricula cards for IDs? Why can't it give it's returning illegals matricula cards to get on these programs?
Because it will cost them money that they don't want to spend. Instead the Mexican government wants US Welfare Aid to help them do what they are suppose to do!
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Old 08-07-2011, 11:26 AM
 
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Some questions and comments about this article.

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After 15 years of installing marble in homes in Escondido, California, Porfirio Perez was caught without a driver's license during a February traffic stop and deported.
He is one stuck in the border situation. So what happened to all of the money he made installing marble for 15 years? A good Stone Mason makes very good money. Of course he was most likely working for peanuts and taking a job that a good stone mason could have made a decent living at?

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During the day the deportees look for work, wash cars at intersections or flee Mexican police who consider them a nuisance.
They are a nuisance as long as they are on the Mexico side of the border. Once they cross over here they are "a relief".

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Some are drug addicts who rob their fellow camp members.
And when they were here they thought nothing of robbing their fellow legal immigrants as well as other citizens. Good riddance!!

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Arturo Macias, 41, says he has lived in the river bed with about 50 people the last 2 1/2 years. The camp has the stench of decaying food that no one seems to notice and is littered with used syringes.
Here is one reason they are considered a nuisance and problem. I can fully believe if these same so called downtrodden people would take it upon themselves to clean up this camp, police themselves, and act civil they might well gain the sympathy of their own people and acquire the help and resources they need. Instead they choose to act like animals, rob, beat, rape, and live like pigs. They are making their own bed and need to learn it is theirs to lay in!

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Mexico's National Institute of Migration has run a program for three years whose objective is to pay the full costs for repatriated migrants to return to their hometowns and work with their home state to find them employment.
It would be interesting to know how much of the funding for this comes from US Taxpayers in the form of grants and aid?

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"We're going to try to cross again, maybe tomorrow or the day after," he said. "We're going alone, that's our only choice. Sometimes one wants to finish what he's started."
Not sure what he is talking about as he did "finish what he's started". He started out as a criminal by illegally crossing our border and his career as a criminal has, at least for now, been finished by sending him back where he belongs!

I have no sympathy for illegal immigrants and whatever conditions they wind up in. It is their choice and their doing!
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Old 08-07-2011, 06:56 PM
 
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Not sure what he is talking about as he did "finish what he's started". He started out as a criminal by illegally crossing our border and his career as a criminal has, at least for now, been finished by sending him back where he belongs!
I read something recently that explained that because of the poor economy and lack of jobs in the USA that many illegals aren't going back home for that reason.

Now the excuse is that really all along they just meant to get some money saved up and return home (seriously the article said just that) but now without jobs, they can't get that money saved up and are deciding to stay on longer than they wanted to.

So *maybe* that's what this guy is trying to claim, that he has to come back to the US illegally and finish saving up that nestegg and THEN he'll go back home. Of course they don't intend to ever return home or they would do that when deported.
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