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Not wanting to make it easy for foreign terrorists to infiltrate our country is NOT the same thing as FORGETTING Oklahoma City. I live only one state away and was 20 when it happened, so it's UNLIKELY I'll FORGET it EVER.
How DARE you.
What is your infallible solution to preventing terrorism of any sort (foreign and domestic) from happening? By not including OKC among what is perceived as a terrorist attack is "forgetting" it (the OP did say that Americans wouldn't do terrorism). BTW, age and a location a state away doesn't gage an impact that a terrorist act can have on someone, you can be near or far, or of any age to be affected.
"chicagonut" is very correct that I have a military background, and served in both the Army and Navy for the better part of the last 25 years. I've been in some fairly nasty places in the service of this great country, fighting an often faceless enemy that came too close to taking my life on at least one occasion. My brothers-in-arms and I have been fully changed by the impact of terrorism, and have made sacrifices that you will never know.
Yes, I DARED to go where many would, or did, not...
As part of that duty, I made my respects at the OKC Memorial site after it was erected. It's a fitting tribute to our memories of the people that died there. Don't put me or my military service with the man that did that horrendous act, against even the littlest of children...
What is your infallible solution to preventing terrorism of any sort (foreign and domestic) from happening? By not including OKC among what is perceived as a terrorist attack is "forgetting" it (the OP did say that Americans wouldn't do terrorism). BTW, age and a location a state away doesn't gage an impact that a terrorist act can have on someone, you can be near or far, or of any age to be affected.
"chicagonut" is very correct that I have a military background, and served in both the Army and Navy for the better part of the last 25 years. I've been in some fairly nasty places in the service of this great country, fighting an often faceless enemy that came too close to taking my life on at least one occasion. My brothers-in-arms and I have been fully changed by the impact of terrorism, and have made sacrifices that you will never know.
Yes, I DARED to go where many would, or did, not...
As part of that duty, I made my respects at the OKC Memorial site after it was erected. It's a fitting tribute to our memories of the people that died there. Don't put me or my military service with the man that did that horrendous act, against even the littlest of children...
How is "not including OKC among what is perceived as a terrorist attack as "forgetting" it" when the subject is about foreign terrorists entering our porous southern border and not domestic terrorists? We haven't forgetten the OKC attack anymore than any other domestic terrorist act but what has that to do with terrorism happening due to our unsecured border? One we couldn't prevent, the one we can.
How is "not including OKC among what is perceived as a terrorist attack as "forgetting" it" when the subject is about foreign terrorists entering our porous southern border and not domestic terrorists? We haven't forgetten the OKC attack anymore than any other domestic terrorist act but what has that to do with terrorism happening due to our unsecured border? One we couldn't prevent, the one we can.
If we do nothing but entirely closing the whole ¨porous southern border¨, how much future terrorism will we ¨prevent¨? I´m not looking for specifics, just a round-number guestimate of a percentage. 100%? 75%? 50%?
How is "not including OKC among what is perceived as a terrorist attack as "forgetting" it" when the subject is about foreign terrorists entering our porous southern border and not domestic terrorists? We haven't forgetten the OKC attack anymore than any other domestic terrorist act but what has that to do with terrorism happening due to our unsecured border? One we couldn't prevent, the one we can.
The OP was (in entirety):
¨I guess Terrorism & crime are jobs Americans won't do , finally the president is right about something.¨
When terrorism is committed by an American on U.S. soil, it is the ¨domestic¨ variety. Sure, with some programs both forms of terrorism can be reduced, but the risk never fully quashed (OKC was also very preventable if we had taken heed from the signs, and did start some changes, i.e. watchfulness on fertilizer sales, that are still with us). What benefit is only focusing on foreign terrorism?
Besides, the OP made the indefensible statement that Americans don´t commit crimes too...
If we do nothing but entirely closing the whole ¨porous southern border¨, how much future terrorism will we ¨prevent¨? I´m not looking for specifics, just a round-number guestimate of a percentage. 100%? 75%? 50%?
Who said anything about "closing" the border? There will always be legal ports of entry. There is no way of knowing the percentages of deterring terrorist entry if we secure our borders better but the fact remains that it would decrease the possibility of their entry in that manner.
¨I guess Terrorism & crime are jobs Americans won't do , finally the president is right about something.¨
When terrorism is committed by an American on U.S. soil, it is the ¨domestic¨ variety. Sure, with some programs both forms of terrorism can be reduced, but the risk never fully quashed (OKC was also very preventable if we had taken heed from the signs, and did start some changes, i.e. watchfulness on fertilizer sales, that are still with us). What benefit is only focusing on foreign terrorism?
Besides, the OP made the indefensible statement that Americans don´t commit crimes too...
Citizens do commit crimes and some commit terrorist acts also. I have never said otherwise. It benefits us to be watchful of both domestic and foreign terrorist acts. We should indeed be watchful of citizens who display this kind of mindset. One of the ways to prevent terrorism from foriengers is to know who is entering our country and for what reason. That can't be accomplished with unsecured borders and people coming here illegally. I mean as a military man this should be elementry to you but I guess it isn't.
Who said anything about "closing" the border? There will always be legal ports of entry. There is no way of knowing the percentages of deterring terrorist entry if we secure our borders better but the fact remains that it would decrease the possibility of their entry in that manner.
I´m asking if we solely closed the entire southern border (absolutely nothing can get through), how much future foreign terrorism would it ¨prevent¨?...
It´s an easy answer, when you understand how terrorists adapt...
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I guess Terrorism & crime are jobs Americans won't do , finally the president is right about something.
now only if they would get (all) the troops out of afghanistan and iraq and place them on the border.. wait a minute thats to logical, forgot we are dealing with morons on the hill
I´m asking if we solely closed the entire southern border (absolutely nothing can get through), how much future foreign terrorism would it ¨prevent¨?...
It´s an easy answer, when you understand how terrorists adapt...
Again, who said anything about closing our entire southern border? Reading comprehension problem, much? Securing it better would "deter" terrorists from entering our country in THAT manner. So unless absolutely no terrorists can get through then we shouldn't even try to stop as many as we can at our borders?
We should pull out all the stops to secure our country from terrorists acts and part of that should be to secure both of our borders as much as possible. Elementary my dear, elementary. Me thinks thou protests too much because of your obvious agenda.
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wait a minute thats to logical, forgot we are dealing with morons on the hill
