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Old 08-14-2011, 11:29 AM
 
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And you cry brown tears.

It is about them being illegal, you brought up the Canadians, we just brought up their linguistic skills which further enhances the illegals' (who can't speak correctly) inability to assimilate. Whatever your language is, that is not English, inhibits communication. In other words, at least Canadians assist in our countries growth and prosperity. People who can't communicate cannot be an asset.
lol citation definitely needed - I know there are farmers in GA losing up to $1 Billion this summer who were doing just fine with these immigrants.

BTW, we have a thread going linked to a study showing that they are assimilating at a faster rate than our ancestors did so you may want to just quit with that whole bit about them not assimilating.
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Old 08-14-2011, 11:35 AM
 
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And you cry brown tears.

It is about them being illegal, you brought up the Canadians, we just brought up their linguistic skills which further enhances the illegals' (who can't speak correctly) inability to assimilate. Whatever your language is, that is not English, inhibits communication. In other words, at least Canadians assist in our countries growth and prosperity. People who can't communicate cannot be an asset.
Yes, why bring up Canadians, if you don't want it pointed out that they assimilate better because they already know the language. Just like there are probably some illegals from India but they aren't as unwilling to learn English.

Of course when people show up by the millions illegally AND insist on being catered to in their own language, they are going to be less liked -- but it wouldn't matter where they came from, if 30 million Greeks showed up here illegally and demanded all their government services, be provided them in Greek, people would not be happy about it.

It's kind of interesting that the very large group of illegals who insist on everything being given them in their own language and claim they have an ethnic right to break the laws of this land, can then turn around and insist that it's just about discrimination against them because of where they're from, which nation's flag they push in our faces. It's THEY who are making that the issue.
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Old 08-14-2011, 11:42 AM
 
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Yes, why bring up Canadians, if you don't want it pointed out that they assimilate better because they already know the language. Just like there are probably some illegals from India but they aren't as unwilling to learn English.

Of course when people show up by the millions illegally AND insist on being catered to in their own language, they are going to be less liked -- but it wouldn't matter where they came from, if 30 million Greeks showed up here illegally and demanded all their government services, be provided them in Greek, people would not be happy about it.

It's kind of interesting that the very large group of illegals who insist on everything being given them in their own language and claim they have an ethnic right to break the laws of this land, can then turn around and insist that it's just about discrimination against them because of where they're from, which nation's flag they push in our faces. It's THEY who are making that the issue.
Great point!

Certainly Germans could have demanded we all speak German. Just a few years ago they had more descendants than any other people. As I said earlier, why don't we speak Gaelic? Even the president is part Irish. Scottish, Welsh also spoke Gaelic.

If you don't want to conform to our culture, speak our language, or obey our laws, just stay away. Leave us alone, no room at the inn.
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Old 08-14-2011, 11:43 AM
 
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Yes, why bring up Canadians, if you don't want it pointed out that they assimilate better because they already know the language. Just like there are probably some illegals from India but they aren't as unwilling to learn English.
So you're just pointing out that you basically don't have issues with illegals that speak English?
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Old 08-14-2011, 11:49 AM
 
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And you cry brown tears.

It is about them being illegal, you brought up the Canadians, we just brought up their linguistic skills which further enhances the illegals' (who can't speak correctly) inability to assimilate. Whatever your language is, that is not English, inhibits communication. In other words, at least Canadians assist in our countries growth and prosperity. People who can't communicate cannot be an asset.
Hilarious. You insist it's about them being illegal... then in the same paragraph just ramble about language.
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Old 08-14-2011, 11:51 AM
 
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Yes, why bring up Canadians, if you don't want it pointed out that they assimilate better because they already know the language. Just like there are probably some illegals from India but they aren't as unwilling to learn English.

Of course when people show up by the millions illegally AND insist on being catered to in their own language, they are going to be less liked -- but it wouldn't matter where they came from, if 30 million Greeks showed up here illegally and demanded all their government services, be provided them in Greek, people would not be happy about it.

It's kind of interesting that the very large group of illegals who insist on everything being given them in their own language and claim they have an ethnic right to break the laws of this land, can then turn around and insist that it's just about discrimination against them because of where they're from, which nation's flag they push in our faces. It's THEY who are making that the issue.
* I didn't bring up canadians
* It doesn't matter if canadians assimilate faster
* I don't care if you "like" them
* I'm not surprised you don't like Greeks either.
* Citations needed on "inisist everything being given them in their own language" and "claim they have an ethnic right to break the laws".

I am sure there are lots of people who VOLUNTARILY do business in spanish as a competitive technique. That doesn't have anything to do with supposed phantom demands that white people learn spanish or that everything be handed over to immigrants.
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Old 08-14-2011, 11:53 AM
 
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Great point!

Certainly Germans could have demanded we all speak German. Just a few years ago they had more descendants than any other people. As I said earlier, why don't we speak Gaelic? Even the president is part Irish. Scottish, Welsh also spoke Gaelic.

If you don't want to conform to our culture, speak our language, or obey our laws, just stay away. Leave us alone, no room at the inn.
It's great when I post something like this:

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Nobody is suggesting that you learn spanish. I mean I get that it just drives some people crazy to see spanish on shampoo bottles, but don't worry, they aren't going to stop using english on soap anytime soon.

Anyway, thank you for proving my point, this ultimately doesn't have squat to do with the legality of the immigrants. It's about who they are and that we don't like them.
and then people rush in, tripping over themselves to prove my point. Again.
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Old 08-14-2011, 11:54 AM
 
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So you're just pointing out that you basically don't have issues with illegals that speak English?
Less, yes, at least I can say something once without hand signals.

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Hilarious. You insist it's about them being illegal... then in the same paragraph just ramble about language.
Just like you did in the same sentence?
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Old 08-14-2011, 11:57 AM
 
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Hmmm you can't tell the difference between rhymetime and I now either? I didn't ramble about language either, I was asking malamute a question about his ramblings on language.
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Old 08-14-2011, 01:23 PM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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Yes, I would like proof that more OTM's have come through our northern border "illegally" than our southern one. I'll be waiting. The 9/11 hijackers came with visas, they didn't come here illegally. Another thing is that millions of Canadians have not come through our northern border illegaly as millions of Mexicans have come through our southern border illegally. If you have proof otherwise, please provide it.
An "OTM" has to be illegal to be "Other Than Mexican"? When a visa overstay goes out-of-status, are they finally called an "OTM" if they aren't Mexican? I didn't attempt to classify any immigration status an "Other Than Mexican" would have for my statement, maybe I shouldn't have been so literal for you.
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