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Old 08-12-2011, 03:33 PM
 
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Yeah your claim that they are all a scourge and the fact that only 57% use welfare is not at all contradictory in your world is it?
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Old 08-12-2011, 03:36 PM
 
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And this is really the crux of it. You believe that the morality of caring for another human being changes based on where the are from. We do not.
No, I believe charity begins at home; and we can hardly provide for our own. Let Mexico and other countries provide their medical care. We have been used and abused enough.
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Old 08-12-2011, 03:37 PM
 
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And the fact that only ~1/3 have kids won't deter you from marching on with the "They are only coming here to be droppin' dem anchor babies to get on welfare!!!" garbage either I'm sure.
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Old 08-12-2011, 03:39 PM
 
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No, I believe charity begins at home; and we can hardly provide for our own. Let Mexico and other countries provide their medical care. We have been used and abused enough.
You said we have a MORAL OBLIGATION within our borders. So yes, your moral assessment does change based on nationality.
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Old 08-12-2011, 03:40 PM
 
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Yeah your claim that they are all a scourge and the fact that only 57% use welfare is not at all contradictory in your world is it?
ONLY 57% of untold millions? And, that’s just an estimate. Who knows how many illegals are actually fleecing taxpayers.
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Old 08-12-2011, 03:41 PM
 
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You said we have a MORAL OBLIGATION within our borders. So yes, your moral assessment does change based on nationality.
Twisting words again I see. I NEVER said “within our borders.” I said we have a moral obligation to provide for our citizens. Illegal aliens are NOT citizens.
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Old 08-12-2011, 03:42 PM
 
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ONLY 57% of untold millions? And, that’s just an estimate. Who knows how many illegals are actually fleecing taxpayers.
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Hmm. . . I don’t recall seeing any data on the alleged 30%. And, even if true, it doesn’t change the fact that at least 57% of ALL illegal alien households are receiving some form of public assistance. Nor does it change the fact that they are giving birth at unprecedented rates. Like it, or not, they are indeed a parasitic scourge.
You should also learn to read your links. It's 57% of immigrants WITH CHILDREN.

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Based on the latest data available, from 2009, 57 percent of households headed by an immigrant (legal and illegal) with children (under 18) used at least one welfare program, compared to 39 percent for native households with children.
So that means 43% of the immigrants WITH KIDS aren't even leeching the system. That kind of further crushes your claims that they are poppin these kids out to get welfare.
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Old 08-12-2011, 03:42 PM
 
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Twisting words again I see. I NEVER said “within our borders.” I said we have a moral obligation to provide for our citizens. Illegal aliens are NOT citizens.
That's not even twisting your words, the citizen/non-citizen distinction is equally morally horrendous. Sorry for implying that your moral assessment changed based on something silly like geography. THAT WOULD BE CRAZY.
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Old 08-12-2011, 03:44 PM
 
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And the fact that only ~1/3 have kids won't deter you from marching on with the "They are only coming here to be droppin' dem anchor babies to get on welfare!!!" garbage either I'm sure.
Still hanging on to a percentage you have yet to prove. Where's the beef?
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Old 08-12-2011, 03:47 PM
 
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That's not even twisting your words, the citizen/non-citizen distinction is equally morally horrendous. Sorry for implying that your moral assessment changed based on something silly like geography. THAT WOULD BE CRAZY.
Then, call me CRAZY; because I don’t give a damn about illegal aliens. In fact, I’m sick of them and their entitlement-minded demands. They need to leave, and they can get their medical care elsewhere.
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