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As I already said, "they have to actually break a law first" is wrong.
No, it is NOT wrong. A person must first violate a law. Then police may stop, question, and ask for ID. If the person is unable to produce ID, then, and ONLY then, may they inquire about immigration status.
Geez, a traffic violation is against the law where I come from. Which states don't have traffic laws? When I was in MEXICO I saw people pulled over all the time. I guess it was because they looked Hispanic.
A traffic violation is "against the law". I agree with that.
But "you have to break a law first" is still wrong.
Hint: getting pulled over is not evidence that you have actually broken the law. Do you think that if I get pulled over, then later get the ticket thrown out, dismissed, or otherwise taken care of without pleading guilty to the offense that the police officer gets sanctioned or reprimanded for pulling me over despite the fact that I didn't actually break the law?
A traffic violation is "against the law". I agree with that.
But "you have to break a law first" is still wrong.
Hint: getting pulled over is not evidence that you have actually broken the law. Do you think that if I get pulled over, then later get the ticket thrown out, dismissed, or otherwise taken care of without pleading guilty to the offense that the police officer gets sanctioned or reprimanded for pulling me over despite the fact that I didn't actually break the law?
Then you have the option of challenging the conviction in court just like anyone else, right?
When do you think someone is "convicted" of a traffic violation, exactly?
Hint: it's not when you get the ticket.
HUH?????
If you sign off on the ticket you admit guilt and pay the fine. Otherwise you go to court at the time stated on the ticket and either the violation sticks or is dropped.
If you sign off on the ticket you admit guilt and pay the fine. Otherwise you go to court at the time stated on the ticket and either the violation sticks or is dropped.
Can you please show me how you think it happens?
No, that isn't what happens at all. Singing the ticket is not an admission of guilt. Paying the ticket is. When you go to court you're not contesting a conviction.
This is not semantical nitpicking, this is pretty basic stuff.
no, that isn't what happens at all. singing the ticket is not an admission of guilt. paying the ticket is. When you go to court you're not contesting a conviction.
This is not semantical nitpicking, this is pretty basic stuff.
Is signing the ticket an admission of guilt?
No, it's just your acknowledgment of receipt of the notice to appear.
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