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Yeah, this would be flawed logic, but good thing that's not what people are arguing.
Nobody is excusing the individual people who drive drunk.
Perhaps but the attempt is made to mitigate the crimes of illegals by claiming only some do bad things. Where as the fact is many do bad things. The attempt to mitagate is taken further by saying yeah well legal citizens do these things too.
Yes some do. Unfortunately.
That said every illegal in this country is an unknown risk and their actions by entering illegally would indicate that our laws are less important to them than their desire for personal gain. Not unlike any and all criminals.
Are these the type of people we would want as citizens? As many pro-illegals have pointed out we have home grown criminals of our own. Do we need to import more?
I'm pretty sure we have constantly held the position that poor people everywhere should be granted the same rights and respect. You guys care more about citizens than noncitizens due to some sense of community that allows you to create a hierarchy of human value, and we do not.
You’re damn straight I care more about my fellow Americans than foreign interlopers. Clearly, you care more about illegals, who, by the way, don’t give a flying fig about you or this country. Oh, that’s right, you don’t actually care about them, you only see $$$$$$.
You’re damn straight I care more about my fellow Americans than foreign interlopers. Clearly, you care more about illegals, who, by the way, don’t give a flying fig about you or this country. Oh, that’s right, you don’t actually care about them, you only see $$$$$$.
Well said. While we can sympathise with the plight of the poor around the world our resourses are limited and obviously we dont even have enough to care for our own poor let alone the masses of other countries many of whom are anything but poor.
You’re damn straight I care more about my fellow Americans than foreign interlopers. Clearly, you care more about illegals, who, by the way, don’t give a flying fig about you or this country. Oh, that’s right, you don’t actually care about them, you only see $$$$$$.
No, I care about people equally. I know that you believe you have to choose sides. You do not.
Perhaps but the attempt is made to mitigate the crimes of illegals by claiming only some do bad things. Where as the fact is many do bad things. The attempt to mitagate is taken further by saying yeah well legal citizens do these things too.
Yes some do. Unfortunately.
That said every illegal in this country is an unknown risk and their actions by entering illegally would indicate that our laws are less important to them than their desire for personal gain. Not unlike any and all criminals.
Are these the type of people we would want as citizens? As many pro-illegals have pointed out we have home grown criminals of our own. Do we need to import more?
Well, SOME of them ARE the type of people we would want as citizens, yes. SOME of them aren't. The idea that because some of them are bad apples we should write off the entire group is pretty much exactly what racism, bigotry, xenophobia is made of. Especially when you combine this thinking in the SAME POST with "well, yeah some citizens are bad apples but we're NOT going to write off THAT whole group, because, hey, that includes ME and I'M not a bad apple!"
You can see the individuals in YOUR group (which is good!), but you're blind to them in THAT OTHER group.
Well said. While we can sympathise with the plight of the poor around the world our resourses are limited and obviously we dont even have enough to care for our own poor let alone the masses of other countries many of whom are anything but poor.
So true. It is absolutely heart-wrenching watching news reports of the starving people in this world, especially the poor children. And, as everyone who isn’t living in a remote cave on a deserted island knows, the U.S. has a reputation for being generous, and sends aid throughout this world. But, we have our own suffering citizens, and they need help. I am compassionate to a fault. But, I would not be willing to deprive my son of food to feed a stranger.
You’re damn straight I care more about my fellow Americans than foreign interlopers. Clearly, you care more about illegals, who, by the way, don’t give a flying fig about you or this country. Oh, that’s right, you don’t actually care about them, you only see $$$$$$.
I certainly don't give a damn about "illegal" foreingers who have thumbed their noses at our laws, stolen our jobs and resources, increased our crime rates, used fake and stolen I.D.'s, overcrowed our schools, jails and hospitals. Why would any sane person give a damn about them over our own citizens?
Well, SOME of them ARE the type of people we would want as citizens, yes. SOME of them aren't. The idea that because some of them are bad apples we should write off the entire group is pretty much exactly what racism, bigotry, xenophobia is made of. Especially when you combine this thinking in the SAME POST with "well, yeah some citizens are bad apples but we're NOT going to write off THAT whole group, because, hey, that includes ME and I'M not a bad apple!"
You can see the individuals in YOUR group (which is good!), but you're blind to them in THAT OTHER group.
That's bigotry in a nutshell.
It is not bigotry. It’s common sense. We don’t want people entering our country illegally, or violating the terms of their visas. If they can’t show us enough respect to obey our laws, we don’t need them.
They are ALL illegal. Whether they are good or bad, NONE have a right to be here, and we want them to leave. It’s just that simple.
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