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Old 08-16-2011, 10:00 PM
 
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Interesting new EEO issue, at work, no one can be dismissed based on LEP, Limited English Proficiency. It is a new protected class...Great...tell me that is not because of illegal aliens taking US jobs. I am tired of going places, and trying to have a conversation, with people who don't speak English. I was at a resturant the other day, could not even talk to the (hispanic) waiter, because he did not speak English, they sent out the black dishwasher to take our orders, because the waiter did not understand what I was saying.
I hope you gave the dishwasher a really good tip since he ended up having to do his job and the other guy's job.

 
Old 08-16-2011, 10:03 PM
 
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You’re damn straight it is! And, this is just a small sampling.


More than half Iraq, Afghanistan vets treated for psychological problems


Many illegal immigrants live in public housing - USATODAY.com

Yet, an illegal can enter this country pregnant and IMMEDIATELY receive tax-funded prenatal care for her “future” U.S. citizen, tax-funded postnatal care, WIC, welfare, subsidized housing, food stamps, and much, much more. Tell me why people who are in this country illegally should be treated better than ANY citizen, let alone, our returning veterans?


Ana Puente | Spared as children -- then cut loose - Los Angeles Times


Immigration debate hits home for liver transplant patients


I wonder how many citizens died while waiting for the organs she and other illegals received. I wonder if Larry is still alive.
Yes, of course. Illegals first even for the organs and surgeries that Americans are denied.

It makes you want to remove yourself as an organ donor.
 
Old 08-17-2011, 12:51 PM
 
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Yes, of course. Illegals first even for the organs and surgeries that Americans are denied.

It makes you want to remove yourself as an organ donor.
That's throwing the baby out with the bathwater; the odds of an illegal receiving your organs are very low; you'd more likely be denying a U.S. citizen your organs.

But we shouldn't be paying for organ transplants for illegals. That Puente woman is on her FOURTH American-funded liver and thinks we should take care of her for life.

Ugh.
 
Old 08-17-2011, 01:37 PM
 
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You’re damn straight it is! And, this is just a small sampling.


More than half Iraq, Afghanistan vets treated for psychological problems


Many illegal immigrants live in public housing - USATODAY.com

Yet, an illegal can enter this country pregnant and IMMEDIATELY receive tax-funded prenatal care for her “future” U.S. citizen, tax-funded postnatal care, WIC, welfare, subsidized housing, food stamps, and much, much more. Tell me why people who are in this country illegally should be treated better than ANY citizen, let alone, our returning veterans?


Ana Puente | Spared as children -- then cut loose - Los Angeles Times


Immigration debate hits home for liver transplant patients


I wonder how many citizens died while waiting for the organs she and other illegals received. I wonder if Larry is still alive.
That last one is just an illustration of the bizarre sense of entitlement the illegal alien lobby truly has. Nothing we own is apparently not theirs for the taking including our very vital organs.

I suppose the trio of idiots will be along shortly to tell me that yeah my great-grandparents came here with the specific expectation of getting a $400,000 operation at American taxpayer expense and I only oppose this because I'm sitting here in my KKK cape . . .
 
Old 08-17-2011, 02:07 PM
 
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That last one is just an illustration of the bizarre sense of entitlement the illegal alien lobby truly has. Nothing we own is apparently not theirs for the taking including our very vital organs.
wow, everytime I think the rhetoric can't possibly get more over-the-top, it does. Yes, they're engaged in a vast conspiracy to steal our organs!

How do you sleep at night? If I thought like this I would be petrified to leave the house because of the roving gangs of bloodthirsty mexicans with their unquenchable thirst for AMERICAN BLOOD (and livers).

 
Old 08-17-2011, 03:06 PM
 
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Yup. On time just as expected. If you don't believe illegal aliens are entitled get operations that literally cost hundreds of thousands at American taxpayer expense while natives go without health care access because they can't afford it well you're just a paranoid fool. And probably a racist.

You know legal immigrants are not supposed to be a public charge. By that definition they're not supposed to qualify for public welfare benefits for a period of time. But hey you're illegal so don't worry. None of the rules that apply to others apply to you.

Because that's the purpose of America: to serve as a hospital for the rest of the world!

Yeah.
 
Old 08-17-2011, 03:37 PM
 
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Yup. On time just as expected. If you don't believe illegal aliens are entitled get operations that literally cost hundreds of thousands at American taxpayer expense while natives go without health care access because they can't afford it well you're just a paranoid fool. And probably a racist.
Wow. Paranoid AND putting words in my mouth! I'm shocked!
 
Old 08-17-2011, 04:21 PM
 
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Because accusing me of believing in a conspiracy to steal American organs isn't putting words in my mouth. Oh no.



Grow up. No one's entitled to get an organ transplant at American expense. Just about no Americans support that idea. Hospitals should damned well ask immigration status before putting someone on the transplant list let alone doing a hugely expensive operation for a criminal who isn't even supposed to be here. No one should walk across the border with the intent of having Americans pay their medical bills.

That is what's happening even if you refuse to admit it.
 
Old 08-17-2011, 04:38 PM
 
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Because accusing me of believing in a conspiracy to steal American organs isn't putting words in my mouth. Oh no.

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That last one is just an illustration of the bizarre sense of entitlement the illegal alien lobby truly has. Nothing we own is apparently not theirs for the taking including our very vital organs.
Please, give me the nuanced distinction between "stealing american organs" and the "bizzare sense of entitlement" that leads them to "take our very vital organs". You make them sound like grave robbers.
 
Old 08-17-2011, 04:41 PM
 
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No one's entitled to get an organ transplant at American expense. Just about no Americans support that idea. Hospitals should damned well ask immigration status before putting someone on the transplant list let alone doing a hugely expensive operation for a criminal who isn't even supposed to be here. No one should walk across the border with the intent of having Americans pay their medical bills.

That is what's happening even if you refuse to admit it.
Ok, so if NO ONE is entitled to get these at American expense and "just about no Americans support that idea" why do you care about IMMIGRATION STATUS? Why don't you want hospitals to look for ABILITY TO PAY?

I mean, yeah, immigration status might be correlated with ability to pay, but ABILITY TO PAY is even more tightly correlated with it if you know what I mean.

Conclusion: you're not actually worried about ability to pay.
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