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poor mexicans: bad, they want to steal our stuff
rich mexicans: bad, they want to help the poor ones steal our stuff
So basically all mexicans = bad, but there's no bigotry here, no sir!
You're cute.
Yeah that's exactly what I said. Shouldn't you be in remedial reading classes right now?
Let me explain this in simpler language so even you can understand. Carlos Slim is the world's richest man. He's a Mexican national. He lent the New York Times half a billion so they could stay afloat. The Times runs many editorials that are pro-illegal. Roughly sixty percent of all illegals are Mexicans. Most of those people are high school drop outs who don't speak English and use our welfare system. The Times does Carlos Slim's bidding. The paper is pro-illegal.
But don't let the facts stand in the way of your false accustations of bigotry. It's not as if you have anything substantive to add to the debate. From now on I could just debate the way you do.
Rhymetime is a sexist. Rhymetime used the word hysteria so Rhymetime is a sexist. That's right Rhymetime is a sexist. A sexist, a sexist, a sexist. That's right a sexist!!!!! Because I said so.
Let me explain this in simpler language so even you can understand. Carlos Slim is the world's richest man. He's a Mexican national. He lent the New York Times half a billion so they could stay afloat. The Times runs many editorials that are pro-illegal. Roughly sixty percent of all illegals are Mexicans. Most of those people are high school drop outs who don't speak English and use our welfare system. The Times does Carlos Slim's bidding. The paper is pro-illegal.
But don't let the facts stand in the way of your false accustations of bigotry. It's not as if you have anything substantive to add to the debate. From now on I could just debate the way you do.
How does this contradict what I said? You're just adding more evidence. Oh, and you're exposing the fact that when you say "illegal" you really mean "mexican".
How does this contradict what I said? You're just adding more evidence. Oh, and you're exposing the fact that when you say "illegal" you really mean "mexican".
Wow, you're sexist and not very bright.
When I write illegal I mean someone who is here in violation of our immigration laws. As eighty percent of all illegals are from Latin American and sixty percent are from Mexico that person is probably Mexican.
Your point? If the Mexican government does not want people to associate illegals with Mexicans, the Mexican government should stop demanding an inherent right to ship their poor people here.
Please tell us all how to talk about this issue. Are we supposed to avoid the word Mexican when writing about illegals? Oh I forgot. They're not illegals. They're Undocumented Saints Who Help Prop Up Racist Americans Too Lazy To Work.
Wow talk about the typical fox news hard right spin,..This is a temporary hold on deporting some people because the Obama administration has so many people to be deported (300,000+) they want to get the criminals and other scum out first. Also from the link:
"In fiscal year 2010, which ended September 30, the United States deported a record 392,000 illegal immigrants."
The Obama administration has been arresting so many illegals they are clogging up the deportation process
It’s much more than a temporary hold. They have no intentions of ever punishing these people for violating our laws. Ergo, they are being rewarded. What a great message to send to the world: Come to the USA illegally, and if you manage not to get caught committing crimes, the U.S. government will reward you by allowing you to remain in the country with impunity. Yes, that’s quite a magnet for more illegal immigration.
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Originally Posted by Bagger
But if you can only deport so many at any one time... doesn't it make sense to prioritize and deport the the worst rather than just deal with them FIFO?
Maybe they don't have the funds to process them all... and increasing budgets these days isn't exactly popular.
Yes, it makes sense to prioritize. But, that shouldn’t mean we ignore all others. They certainly shouldn’t be rewarded for violating our laws.
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Originally Posted by Bagger
That appears to be all conjecture from the OP I read. If Obama does in effect decree the Dream Act, which I don't think he can, then I'll be against it. But for now, I don't see that as the policy so I still think it makes sense to prioritize the deportations.
But, isn’t that what he’s doing by decriminalizing Dreamies? If they’re off-limits, he has essentially granted their DREAM Act amnesty.
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Originally Posted by Canaan-84
It's not a true amnesty since not everyone will qualify. On the news they said very few illegals would actually benefit from it.
It doesn’t have to include every illegal alien to qualify as an amnesty. They know they can’t grant another mass amnesty, so they will continue their piecemeal tactics. This way, as many as possible will be legalized without the involvement of Congress.
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Originally Posted by TempesT68
Which is true, Obama has been laying the hammer down on illegals. He's got so many on the deportation list, he's putting the criminals on the first buses out of the country as the main priority, with the rest to come.
But, “the rest” will NEVER come. That’s their strategy. The only reason Obama is deporting record numbers, is to pave the way for “the rest” to be legalized.
It’s much more than a temporary hold. They have no intentions of ever punishing these people for violating our laws. Ergo, they are being rewarded. What a great message to send to the world: Come to the USA illegally, and if you manage not to get caught committing crimes, the U.S. government will reward you by allowing you to remain in the country with impunity. Yes, that’s quite a magnet for more illegal immigration.
Yes, it makes sense to prioritize. But, that shouldn’t mean we ignore all others. They certainly shouldn’t be rewarded for violating our laws.
But, isn’t that what he’s doing by decriminalizing Dreamies? If they’re off-limits, he has essentially granted their DREAM Act amnesty.
It doesn’t have to include every illegal alien to qualify as an amnesty. They know they can’t grant another mass amnesty, so they will continue their piecemeal tactics. This way, as many as possible will be legalized without the involvement of Congress.
But, “the rest” will NEVER come. That’s their strategy. The only reason Obama is deporting record numbers, is to pave the way for “the rest” to be legalized.
You hit the nail on the head with your last paragraph in particular, Benicar.
When I write illegal I mean someone who is here in violation of our immigration laws. As eighty percent of all illegals are from Latin American and sixty percent are from Mexico that person is probably Mexican.
Your point? If the Mexican government does not want people to associate illegals with Mexicans, the Mexican government should stop demanding an inherent right to ship their poor people here.
Please tell us all how to talk about this issue. Are we supposed to avoid the word Mexican when writing about illegals? Oh I forgot. They're not illegals. They're Undocumented Saints Who Help Prop Up Racist Americans Too Lazy To Work.
Yeah.
Again, you're showing that you don't even know what racism is. It's not the fact that you're talking about mexicans. It's the disdain for them that shows in your words. And it's not just the ones that are here illegaly.
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