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Old 08-18-2011, 09:31 PM
 
Location: New Hampshire
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I have run out of words to say when it comes to illegal immigration.

What a slap in the face to those who came here legally like my father and my grandfather.

Such a shame.

 
Old 08-18-2011, 09:40 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Law in America is fungible.

It depends on how much position and power you have.

Clinton lied and was impeached, yet he is the darling of stupid people.

That is true, Bush spied on the American people w/ illegal wiretaps and he's the darling of ignorant and moronic people. Reagan lied, dealt w/ terrorists and funneled arms & money to an illegal group, yet he's marveled and idolized by even people more stupid than Bush lovers.

Go figure...I know see the correlation. They're anti-American, freedom hating, ignoring rule of law communists. Damn right-wing extremists.
 
Old 08-18-2011, 11:18 PM
 
Location: Pleasant Ridge, Cincinnati, OH
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Really? What party is that?
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Originally Posted by Alltheusernamesaretaken View Post
Gotta spell this out for you? Not a POLITICAL party. Now read again.
An anti-white disco party, then?
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Regardless, he is blatantly choosing to disregard our law; he is claiming that he just WILL NOT enforce that law. This should be criminal, of course.
There are plenty of laws that aren't enforced; here in Ohio, apparently it's illegal to buy or sell pornography. Should the governor be impeached for not enforcing this?

The real question that you need to ask yourself is: Is it moral for ICE officers to burst into a non-violent family's home and arrest them because they are not citizens of the United States, and didn't go through the proper bureaucracy? Is that what you expect from a free country?
 
Old 08-18-2011, 11:32 PM
 
Location: New Hampshire
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The real question that you need to ask yourself is: Is it moral for ICE officers to burst into a non-violent family's home and arrest them because they are not citizens of the United States, and didn't go through the proper bureaucracy? Is that what you expect from a free country?
Can you give me your address? I would like to go live in your house (only if you are rich by the way) for free and don't you dare tell me I can't because I really just want a better life right now and you can't blame me.

Yes, this is a free country...but do you realize we have laws...We have IMMIGRATION laws that illegal aliens made the CHOICE to violate?

Or are you just too darn blind to see?

Go tell any legal immigrant that their work was in vain, that waiting to come and live here illegally was a waste of time and tell me how they feel about it.
 
Old 08-18-2011, 11:33 PM
 
Location: Pleasant Ridge, Cincinnati, OH
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Being brown equals being here illegally?
I'd imagine that in the mind's eye of those who support arresting non-violent immigrants aren't picturing ICE agents storming a house with a family of Canadians or Irishmen without a green card... though I could be wrong. Maybe they're all about hunting down non-violent Canadians, too, for all I know.

Regardless, I think that it's hypocritical to call yourself a free country and then arrest people for not dealing with the proper bureaucracy. The lack of enforcement of it wouldn't detract me from voting for any president (that's not to say that I support Obama; I don't).

The lack of enforcement of a law is hardly a grounds for impeachment, though. There are plenty of unenforced laws on the books.
 
Old 08-18-2011, 11:36 PM
 
Location: Pleasant Ridge, Cincinnati, OH
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Can you give me your address? I would like to go live in your house (only if you are rich by the way) for free and don't you dare tell me I can't because I really just want a better life right now and you can't blame me.
What on earth are you talking about? Where, from any of my statements, did you get the inclination that people shouldn't own their own property and have dominion over it? What does that have to do with arresting these people? Are you insinuating that they're all squatters? I'd figure that most of them probably pay rent somewhere.
 
Old 08-18-2011, 11:38 PM
 
Location: New Hampshire
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I'd imagine that in the mind's eye of those who support arresting non-violent immigrants aren't picturing ICE agents storming a house with a family of Canadians or Irishmen without a green card... though I could be wrong. Maybe they're all about hunting down non-violent Canadians, too, for all I know.

Regardless, I think that it's hypocritical to call yourself a free country and then arrest people for not dealing with the proper bureaucracy. The lack of enforcement of it wouldn't detract me from voting for any president (that's not to say that I support Obama; I don't).

The lack of enforcement of a law is hardly a grounds for impeachment, though. There are plenty of unenforced laws on the books.
OMFG.... it is a free country but laws must be followed. We have laws.

Apparently you don't know the meaning of the word "law".

"Law is a system of rules and guidelines, usually enforced through a set of institutions. It shapes politics, economics and society in numerous ways and serves as a social mediator of relations between people."

Do you pick and choose which ones you want to follow?



I support deportation for ALL illegal aliens. I don't care where they are from. ALL OF THEM.
 
Old 08-18-2011, 11:42 PM
 
Location: Pleasant Ridge, Cincinnati, OH
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Yes, this is a free country...but do you realize we have laws...We have IMMIGRATION laws that illegal aliens made the CHOICE to violate?

Or are you just too darn blind to see?

Go tell any legal immigrant that their work was in vain, that waiting to come and live here illegally was a waste of time and tell me how they feel about it.
So, if being jewish were made illegal, and a president refused to round up jews and put them in prisons because of their religion... he should be impeached?

Laws can be (and often are) wrong. Immigration laws in the United States are wrong. Non-violent people shouldn't be imprisoned, and people shouldn't have to navigate a ridiculous bureaucracy to come here.
 
Old 08-18-2011, 11:45 PM
 
Location: Pleasant Ridge, Cincinnati, OH
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OMFG.... it is a free country but laws must be followed. We have laws.

Apparently you don't know the meaning of the word "law".

"Law is a system of rules and guidelines, usually enforced through a set of institutions. It shapes politics, economics and society in numerous ways and serves as a social mediator of relations between people."

Do you pick and choose which ones you want to follow?



I support deportation for ALL illegal aliens. I don't care where they are from. ALL OF THEM.
American colonists were breaking the law when they declared their independence from England... high treason. You would have been on the side of King George, I suppose?
 
Old 08-18-2011, 11:45 PM
 
Location: New Hampshire
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What on earth are you talking about? Where, from any of my statements, did you get the inclination that people shouldn't own their own property and have dominion over it? What does that have to do with arresting these people? Are you insinuating that they're all squatters? I'd figure that most of them probably pay rent somewhere.
Same applies to this country.. According to you those people are free to go as they please.

There are laws protecting random folks from going into your house without your permission...and you think it is okay for anyone to come to the United States without going through the proper channels?

Hypocritical much?

We have the right to dictate who can come here legally or not. Just as you have the dictate who is allowed into your home.
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