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Old 08-22-2011, 10:57 PM
 
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Kick them all out (by enforcing existing laws), and those problems disappear also.
Yeah, how's that working out for you?

 
Old 08-22-2011, 11:01 PM
 
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If the illegals were not here, those problems would disappear too.
As already pointed out, if legal immigrants weren't here, then those guys wouldn't accidentally kill anyone either.

You haven't shown any link between their illegalness and their propensity to drive drunk. Therefore, kicking them out (and let's be clear, you're not talking about JUST kicking out the drunks, you're talking about all illegals, whether they have any history of DUI or not) isn't likely to have any effect on DUI rates greater than kicking out the same number of any other group.

This is why the entire premise is bogus. It's just an excuse to go on a witch hunt. It's the politicization of a tragedy.

If I waved a magic wand and made them all illegal, and the same result occured (which would be the case since their legal status has no link to their drinking and driving) would you still make this thread?
 
Old 08-22-2011, 11:02 PM
 
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Total and typical deflection. The incidents are not even remotely the same. And you know it.
Really? What's the difference? When your car gets hit, does the damage take longer to repair because the guy that hit you is illegal? Is the dent bigger if the guy is illegal?
 
Old 08-22-2011, 11:04 PM
 
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Making them legal isn't going to solve their alcoholism, it's not going to stop them from driving drunk and doing hit-and-runs.
Of course it's not. That's EXACTLY the point. There's NO LINK AT ALL between legal status and this particular crime.

This thread is over IMO.
 
Old 08-22-2011, 11:09 PM
 
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No. If you make DUI legal the problem of people getting hit by drunk drivers does not disappear.

If you make murder legal the problem of people getting killed does not disappear.

If you make stealing legal the problem of people's stuff disappearing does not disappear.

These are qualitatively different crimes.
BTW, we've had this discussion before.

http://www.city-data.com/forum/19886669-post25.html
 
Old 08-22-2011, 11:56 PM
 
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Really? What's the difference? When your car gets hit, does the damage take longer to repair because the guy that hit you is illegal? Is the dent bigger if the guy is illegal?
If a tree was in the middle of the road it would get hit too.

I know, I know, a tree doesn't belong in the middle of the road.
Just like criminal illegal aliens don't belong in this country.

The dent wouldn't be there at all if the criminal illegal alien wasn't there either. Gateway crime.
 
Old 08-23-2011, 05:51 AM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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Really? What's the difference? When your car gets hit, does the damage take longer to repair because the guy that hit you is illegal? Is the dent bigger if the guy is illegal?

Since most of them are uninsured it certainly makes a bigger dent in one's wallet.
 
Old 08-23-2011, 05:53 AM
 
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Of course it's not. That's EXACTLY the point. There's NO LINK AT ALL between legal status and this particular crime.

This thread is over IMO.

So....since you've been pinned down multiple times and failed to answer questions that are difficult for you the thread is now over?
 
Old 08-23-2011, 06:18 AM
 
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If a tree was in the middle of the road it would get hit too.

I know, I know, a tree doesn't belong in the middle of the road.
Just like criminal illegal aliens don't belong in this country.

The dent wouldn't be there at all if the criminal illegal alien wasn't there either. Gateway crime.
This article isn't about a dent anyway, I'm sure that dragged to death American citizen would have been happy to have a dent in his car caused by an insured fellow citizen but what happened to him was a whole lot worse than that.

The illegal dragged him while he was alive and wouldn't stop. Why didn't the illegal have enough compassion to stop and render aid? Same reason they don't bother getting insurance and why they don't follow immigration laws. They are being told they are above the laws.
 
Old 08-23-2011, 06:25 AM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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This article isn't about a dent anyway, I'm sure that dragged to death American citizen would have been happy to have a dent in his car caused by an insured fellow citizen but what happened to him was a whole lot worse than that.

The illegal dragged him while he was alive and wouldn't stop. Why didn't the illegal have enough compassion to stop and render aid? Same reason they don't bother getting insurance and why they don't follow immigration laws. They are being told they are above the laws.
What it boils down to:

Illegals are extremely self serving. They don't care what laws they have to break in order to achieve their goal of being in America. As was shown here this man couldn't even be bothered to stop his truck when someone he had just hit was pinned underneath. His only concern was fleeing the scene to avoid prosecution. What? I'm crushing a man to his death? That's ok because that's what I need to do in order to avoid being caught. It's sickening.
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