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Old 08-27-2011, 03:45 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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This time you can provide some links. Get us the link showing us that most illegals after crossing over go and get themselves a medical insurance plan or that most illegals actually pay their hospital bills out of their own pockets, including the maternity hospital stay when they have their anchor babies.

Logic will tell you that they do not. They cannot come here and take all those very low wage jobs that no Americans want and afford the health care costs here.
According to the pro-illegal gospel, Pew Hispanic, you are absolutely right.

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Six-in-ten Hispanic adults living in the United States who are not citizens or legal permanent residents lack health insurance. The share of uninsured among this group (60%) is much higher than the share of uninsured among Latino adults who are legal permanent residents or citizens (28%), or among the adult population of the United States (17%).
http://pewhispanic.org/reports/report.php?ReportID=113

 
Old 08-27-2011, 03:45 PM
 
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No just pointing out that your fantasy land where white collar workers don't compete for their jobs is pretty much b.s.
Hah. You love to throw out one lazy straw man argument after another, don't you? White collar workers have to compete, but not nearly the way blue-collar and the working class do. And nowhere close to a commodity basis, either.

So fess up. What do you do for a living? No lying either.
 
Old 08-27-2011, 03:46 PM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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Let's try something else here:

Say you emigrated from...oh...Romania. You came here with your visa or whatever, you got a green card, you wanted to be an American citizen and stay here. You went through reams of paperwork, you spent a LOT of your own money, you studied and tested, you were investigated and interrogated, (slight dramatic addition there), and after years, years of waiting, working hard, hoping, and spending a fortune, you were, FINALLY granted your wish. You went to your swearing in ceremony where you stood with other fellow new American citizens as well as born Americans who stood there to welcome you, you felt that rush of pride, you were happy, you earned it. You were now an American citizen.

How would you feel if after going through all of that, you found out that someone came to this country illegally and was given free medical care, a job, housing, a car, a license to drive, a pardon and was told they did not have to return to their country, it was ok, see, the government is feeling compassionate today.

HOW WOULD YOU HONESTLY FEEL!?
What, we didn´t give them a jetairliner too? You have the emphasis that you were being overly-dramatic in the wrong place. Is your Romanian immigrant (oh, I forgot he naturalized, so he´s not an immigrant anymore) also resentful that many U.S. citizens did nothing more than be born here to gain their U.S. citizenship?
 
Old 08-27-2011, 03:49 PM
 
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We're such a compassionate bunch -- when we hear of border patrol agents picking up a hungry illegal and then giving him their sandwich on the way into the detention center we feel like that was a nice act.

I never hear of any American objecting to the illegals being served a meal and given water to drink before they are returned home.
 
Old 08-27-2011, 03:59 PM
 
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What, we didn´t give them a jetairliner too? You have the emphasis that you were being overly-dramatic in the wrong place. Is your Romanian immigrant (oh, I forgot he naturalized, so he´s not an immigrant anymore) also resentful that many U.S. citizens did nothing more than be born here to gain their U.S. citizenship?
Are you suggesting they haven’t received free medical care, jobs, housing, car loans, driver’s licenses, and pardons for violating our laws?

Why should a naturalized citizen feel resentment toward those born in this country?
 
Old 08-27-2011, 04:14 PM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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Are you suggesting they haven’t received free medical care, jobs, housing, car loans, driver’s licenses, and pardons for violating our laws?...
Free?...
 
Old 08-27-2011, 04:16 PM
 
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Free?...
Yes, FREE medical care; as in, THEY don’t pay.
 
Old 08-27-2011, 04:23 PM
 
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As in, anyone can go to free clinics or ERs and that includes illegal immigrants.
 
Old 08-27-2011, 04:31 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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As in, anyone can go to free clinics or ERs and that includes illegal immigrants.
As in, illegal aliens should not be here, and ALL of their FREE medical care is an unnecessary burden for U.S. taxpayers and hospitals. Furthermore, we have a moral obligation to care for our uninsured citizens. We owe illegal aliens NOTHING.

BTW, “anyone” cannot receive FREE organ transplants or kidney dialysis.
 
Old 08-27-2011, 04:33 PM
 
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Moral obligation based on citizenship, I know I know.
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