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Old 09-02-2011, 11:59 AM
 
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Wow, like I haven't heard this witty retort before.

If you legalize robbery and murder, the PROBLEM (people's stuff disappearing and people getting killed) still exists.

If you legalize immigration the PROBLEM (people being here illegally) DISAPPEARS.

I don't know about you, but I'd consider that to be a pretty significant difference.

The issue is not just their immigration status. The issue is that we don't have the infrastructure to support billions of needy people who don't want to live in their own country. Legalizing illegals doesn't make their issues go away.
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Old 09-02-2011, 12:00 PM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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So then, the same proposition: unlimited immigration with immigrant-funded background and health screening, and agreement they won't access welfare. This addresses ALL of your (stated) concerns. Will you support it? A simple yes or no will do here.

No
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Old 09-02-2011, 12:06 PM
 
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I don't support "illegal aliens". I support freedom for human beings.
What freedom?

Are you suggesting a lawless society?
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Old 09-02-2011, 12:07 PM
 
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The issue is not just their immigration status. The issue is that we don't have the infrastructure to support billions of needy people who don't want to live in their own country. Legalizing illegals doesn't make their issues go away.
It makes it worse by allowing them access to our welfare system.

But what do you expect from someone who is reduced to using the third grade taunt, "mind your own business!" Yeah. That's a convincing argument.

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Old 09-02-2011, 12:07 PM
 
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Wow, like I haven't heard this witty retort before.

If you legalize robbery and murder, the PROBLEM (people's stuff disappearing and people getting killed) still exists.

If you legalize immigration the PROBLEM (people being here illegally) DISAPPEARS.

I don't know about you, but I'd consider that to be a pretty significant difference.
Why encourage bad behavior?
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Old 09-02-2011, 12:07 PM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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I don't support "illegal aliens". I support freedom for human beings.

That's very touching. This is fine though. Let them be free- in their country of origin.

Why do you feel that the USA has an obligation to the rest of the world?
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Old 09-02-2011, 12:09 PM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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It makes it worse by allowing them access to our welfare system.

But what do you expect from someone who is reduced to using the third grade taunt, "mind your own business!" Yeah. That's a convincing argument.

Of course it does but that's only the tip of the ice berg.

Jobs
Housing
Roads
Schools
Hospitals
Food
Water

These are not infinite resources.
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Old 09-02-2011, 12:12 PM
 
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If you legalize immigration the PROBLEM (people being here illegally) DISAPPEARS.

I don't know about you, but I'd consider that to be a pretty significant difference.

Are you really that oblivious to your own statements? Do you not see further than your own nose?
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Old 09-02-2011, 12:14 PM
 
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So then, the same proposition: unlimited immigration with immigrant-funded background and health screening, and agreement they won't access welfare. This addresses ALL of your (stated) concerns. Will you support it? A simple yes or no will do here.
Are you so naive that you believe they would actually follow all of this, particularly the agreement not to accept welfare? Is so, I have some beachfront property in Idaho I'd like to sell you.
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Old 09-02-2011, 12:15 PM
 
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I think someone's an illegal or closely related to a few. Or just stupid.


Ooh! Ooh! I know! I know!
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