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Old 09-02-2011, 12:21 PM
 
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Are you suggesting a lawless society?
No.
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Old 09-02-2011, 12:23 PM
 
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No
Why not? That plan addresses concerns about:

* terrorists
* criminals
* disease
* "draining our coffers"

so what's the problem, exactly?
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Old 09-02-2011, 12:25 PM
 
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Of course it does but that's only the tip of the ice berg.

Jobs
Housing
Roads
Schools
Hospitals
Food
Water

These are not infinite resources.
Yes, immigrants would still have to pay for housing. They'd still pay gas taxes and property taxes that fund roads and schools. They'd have to buy food and water.

Competition for jobs is going to exist whether they come or not. And there's not a finite supply of jobs.
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Old 09-02-2011, 12:26 PM
 
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Are you really that oblivious to your own statements? Do you not see further than your own nose?
I'm pointing out that the STATED objection "it's THE LAW" is meaningless. There's clearly another, deeper motive. But people are reluctant to come out and say it.

Why is that?
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Old 09-02-2011, 12:27 PM
 
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Yes, immigrants would still have to pay for housing. They'd still pay gas taxes and property taxes that fund roads and schools. They'd have to buy food and water.

Competition for jobs is going to exist whether they come or not. And there's not a finite supply of jobs.
Illegals push wages down which is bad.

They do not speak English.

We don't need them & they should not be here.
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Old 09-02-2011, 12:28 PM
 
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Are you so naive that you believe they would actually follow all of this, particularly the agreement not to accept welfare? Is so, I have some beachfront property in Idaho I'd like to sell you.
If they're here legally, it will be much harder for them to engage in welfare fraud. Impossible? no. But certainly harder.
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Old 09-02-2011, 12:29 PM
 
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So make them legal. Problem solved.
So let me get this straight, you're in favor of awarding legal status to those who knowingly took it upon themselves to break the law and violate the sovereignty of a nation? Really? I'm not.

Even moreso, I oppose awarding monies to the off springs of law breakers when the children of United States Citizens - like mine own - are struggling to get through college. If anything, I'ld favor enacting laws which would force illegals to restitute the state all monies which they fraudulently benefited from.

Enough is enough!

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Old 09-02-2011, 12:30 PM
 
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Illegals push wages down which is bad.
Well poor citizens push wages down, too. Should we get rid of them? Clearly there are some people who want to do this (look at all the people who want anchor babies (who are citizens) "deported").
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Old 09-02-2011, 12:37 PM
 
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Why not? That plan addresses concerns about:

* terrorists
* criminals
* disease
* "draining our coffers"

so what's the problem, exactly?





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Of course it does but that's only the tip of the ice berg.

Jobs
Housing
Roads
Schools
Hospitals
Food
Water

These are not infinite resources.
Pay attention....
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Old 09-02-2011, 12:40 PM
 
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Well poor citizens push wages down, too. Should we get rid of them? Clearly there are some people who want to do this (look at all the people who want anchor babies (who are citizens) "deported").
No they do not.

We have unions.
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