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Old 09-08-2011, 06:48 PM
 
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Many from my fathers side were alcoholics. I dont have a good thing to say about drunks. Am I a hypocrite?
She is admitting that illegal immigration is wrong and shouldnt be rewarded. She is correct.
Did your father's side being alcoholics have anything to do with you being a citizen? Did you benefit from them being alcoholics? If not, then your analogy doesn't hold water.
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Old 09-08-2011, 06:55 PM
 
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Lol, you are a hypocrite as well. Opposing things that you personally benefited from.
So, if one's grandfather was a bank robber and left that money to his descendants whether they wanted it or not, his descendants should approve of bank robbery then?
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Old 09-08-2011, 07:01 PM
 
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So, if one's grandfather was a bank robber and left that money to his descendants whether they wanted it or not, his descendants should approve of bank robbery then?
Birth right citizenship is not robbery. Stop with the silly analogies!!
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Old 09-08-2011, 07:03 PM
 
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Lol, you are a hypocrite as well. Opposing things that you personally benefited from.
Not really, a person can disagree with the mistakes/wrongs off the past and work towards solving the problems of the present.

What has transpired years ago at times can't be undone. Steps can be taken in the future to address and solve the issues so they won't repeat themselves.
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Old 09-08-2011, 07:07 PM
 
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Birth right citizenship is not robbery. Stop with the silly analogies!!
Actually it is on certain levels.

If birthright citizenship qualifies you for benefits bought and paid for by taxpayers then it is.

If the parents had the means and paid all of their own medical, housing and support then you would be right to a certain degree.
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Old 09-08-2011, 07:15 PM
 
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Birth right citizenship is not robbery. Stop with the silly analogies!!
It isn't a silly analogy. The analogy went right over your head. The point is that just because someone benefited from their ancestor's lawbreaking of which they had no control over that doesn't mean that they should approve of that same lawbreaking in today's world.
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Old 09-08-2011, 07:36 PM
 
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It isn't a silly analogy. The analogy went right over your head. The point is that just because someone benefited from their ancestor's lawbreaking of which they had no control over that doesn't mean that they should approve of that same lawbreaking in today's world.
You've made your point, but common sense and liberalism are two things that don't go together.
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Old 09-08-2011, 07:55 PM
 
Location: Pa
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Did your father's side being alcoholics have anything to do with you being a citizen? Did you benefit from them being alcoholics? If not, then your analogy doesn't hold water.
If my grand parents were thieves and their stolen goods provided me with nice things would I still be wrong for condemning them as thieves?Anything they bought for me I recieved without asking for and are things I cant give back.
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Old 09-08-2011, 08:01 PM
 
Location: New Hampshire
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So if my grandfather has been a law breaker, let's say, a murderer... I shouldn't oppose murders because that would make me a hypocrite? Yeah, right....
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Old 09-08-2011, 08:04 PM
 
Location: New Hampshire
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If my grand parents were thieves and their stolen goods provided me with nice things would I still be wrong for condemning them as thieves?Anything they bought for me I recieved without asking for and are things I cant give back.
Dear, some people just refuse to accept anything that doesn't fit their liberal agenda.

Your analogy makes too much sense!
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