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Old 09-10-2011, 10:43 AM
 
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Is it necessary to like, actually make up things to argue with me about? I know the idea of saying "OK, fair enough" is enough to drive you entirely insane, but maybe just once in a while you could not bring in some other topic we disagree about when it is beside the point.

 
Old 09-10-2011, 10:44 AM
 
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And if it's 'illegal' as you've just written, then they are indeed Illegal Aliens, no???
Sure. And?
 
Old 09-10-2011, 10:45 AM
 
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lol goalpost shift. No one ever said deportation was not the remedy. That's not what anyone is talking about.

What goal post shift? You mean where you keep trying to gain sympathy by stating that the crime they commit is not criminal?

I simply pointed out that crimes have punishments that are attached to them. And the punishment for illegals is deportation. If you commit a crime it's always wise to know the punishment affixed to it so you can weigh your options.
 
Old 09-10-2011, 10:47 AM
 
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What goal post shift? You mean where you keep trying to gain sympathy by stating that the crime they commit is not criminal?

I simply pointed out that crimes have punishments that are attached to them. And the punishment for illegals is deportation. If you commit a crime it's always wise to know the punishment affixed to it so you can weigh your options.
I'm not going to keep arguing the same non-point over and over again. You still don't seem to understand the original statement I made, as the bolded illustrates. You just keep making up new issues. "But they still can be deported!" or whatever.
 
Old 09-10-2011, 10:54 AM
 
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I'm not going to keep arguing the same non-point over and over again. You still don't seem to understand the original statement I made, as the bolded illustrates. You just keep making up new issues. "But they still can be deported!" or whatever.

How is enacting the prescribed punishment affixed to a law a non point?

So what is your point? That they aren't criminals for coming here illegally or overstaying? What's the difference? They know the punishment and they are willing to take the chance. And when they get caught they pay the price like citizens have to. Yes, citizens have to pay for their crimes too.
 
Old 09-10-2011, 10:56 AM
 
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Sure. And?
Well isn't that kinda where we started?
 
Old 09-10-2011, 10:59 AM
 
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Well isn't that kinda where we started?
No.
 
Old 09-10-2011, 11:00 AM
 
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What goal post shift? You mean where you keep trying to gain sympathy by stating that the crime they commit is not criminal?

I simply pointed out that crimes have punishments that are attached to them. And the punishment for illegals is deportation. If you commit a crime it's always wise to know the punishment affixed to it so you can weigh your options.
Exactly. Just like the penalty for speeding is a traffic ticket, no one is suggesting the death penalty or life sentences in prison for illegals, they should simply be returned home and it's up to them to decide if their own country is a punishment or not.
 
Old 09-10-2011, 11:05 AM
 
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Is it necessary to like, actually make up things to argue with me about? I know the idea of saying "OK, fair enough" is enough to drive you entirely insane, but maybe just once in a while you could not bring in some other topic we disagree about when it is beside the point.
I donít want to assume. So, would you mind indicating whose post this is in response to?
 
Old 09-10-2011, 11:06 AM
 
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We have 2 rule books. One book is the criminal code, one book is the civil code.
In what book are the rules (laws) for non citizens entering the USA? Last time I looked it was in civil. The penalty was to be returned to your country and/or a $1000 fine. It was not a crime. Thus, the folks who break the rules were not considered criminals. Kinda like jaywalking.
Does anyone know the current rules? Perhaps the rules could be changed? Write your congressman.
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