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Old 09-20-2011, 04:47 PM
 
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I want to ask a question: Who else has left their house, realized they left their ID at home and thought, "Crap, hope I don't get stopped for something (traffic or otherwise) and not have my ID on me?" It's not a HUGE issue to you because you know you are legally here and can clear it up with the authorities, but you still know that common knowledge is that you carry an ID with you. I would think it should be even more true of someone who is a visitor or immigrant to the country.

I'm a US citizen and I was born here, and even I know that having an ID on me is important and that without it things could become more drawn-out with an officer. So, I don't really buy this talk about how the police are being hard on illegal immigants by demanding that a person carry their documents.
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Old 09-20-2011, 04:56 PM
 
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I want to ask a question: Who else has left their house, realized they left their ID at home and thought, "Crap, hope I don't get stopped for something (traffic or otherwise) and not have my ID on me?" It's not a HUGE issue to you because you know you are legally here and can clear it up with the authorities, but you still know that common knowledge is that you carry an ID with you. I would think it should be even more true of someone who is a visitor or immigrant to the country.

I'm a US citizen and I was born here, and even I know that having an ID on me is important and that without it things could become more drawn-out with an officer. So, I don't really buy this talk about how the police are being hard on illegal immigants by demanding that a person carry their documents.
You realize you guys are the only one's talking about driving, right? If you are driving without a license, that IS illegal. If you're "clearing it up" with an officer, they're letting you off the hook. That's different than walking down the street without a license.
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Old 09-20-2011, 08:11 PM
 
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You realize you guys are the only one's talking about driving, right? If you are driving without a license, that IS illegal. If you're "clearing it up" with an officer, they're letting you off the hook. That's different than walking down the street without a license.
I mentioned driving, that wasn't the ONLY thing that I am talking about.

And yes, when I was growing up, if we as minors were out walking on the street at night, we were always told by our parents that we should have an idea.

You're trying very hard to not hear me out. I'm just being real with you about this. I've always been paranoid about not having an ID on me. I don't understand why people think immigrants can't have the same responsibility as us.

And when I say, "clear it up," I'm saying that because I AM legally here and not living a LIE that eventually it would be realized that I have the right to be here and am here legally. I work somewhere legally and I was born here with birth documentation, I would be able to prove that. Someone who is here LEGALLY would be able to do that by the law enforcement going through the proper agencies or if the immigrant presented documents that were legit.
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Old 09-20-2011, 08:23 PM
 
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I mentioned driving, that wasn't the ONLY thing that I am talking about.

And yes, when I was growing up, if we as minors were out walking on the street at night, we were always told by our parents that we should have an idea.

You're trying very hard to not hear me out. I'm just being real with you about this. I've always been paranoid about not having an ID on me. I don't understand why people think immigrants can't have the same responsibility as us.
There's a difference between a LEGAL responsibility and what you consider to be the responsible thing to do.
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Old 09-21-2011, 07:31 PM
 
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There's a difference between a LEGAL responsibility and what you consider to be the responsible thing to do.
What? That's your response to that? Bahaha.
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Old 09-22-2011, 08:24 AM
 
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You realize you guys are the only one's talking about driving, right? If you are driving without a license, that IS illegal. If you're "clearing it up" with an officer, they're letting you off the hook. That's different than walking down the street without a license.
Yes it is illegal.

At the same time they want to demand to be unknown
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Old 09-22-2011, 10:10 AM
 
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Yes it is illegal.

At the same time they want to demand to be unknown
What is illegal (quote what you are responding to)?...

"Demand to be unknown"?...

What are you talking about?...
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Old 09-22-2011, 12:30 PM
 
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What is illegal (quote what you are responding to)?...

"Demand to be unknown"?...

What are you talking about?...
[COLOR="rgb(255, 140, 0)"]1. Driving with no license.[/color]

2. being required to produce ID

3. Illegals
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Old 09-22-2011, 02:33 PM
 
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Under what circumstances do you have random checks?
We have road blocks. Sometimes for DUI and sometimes for seatbelts. They catch people for outstanding warrants, no insurance, and the stated reason for the road block.
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Old 09-25-2011, 12:01 PM
 
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I am in favor of strict immigration enforcement and I think everyone should carry some form of identification with them any time they leave the house(DL, State ID, Dogtags, etc.) but to stop anyone/everyone and demand to be shown an ID is WAY overboard.
For the most part those "illegals" standing outside a building supply place looking for day labor are not the illegals that are causing us problems.

How about this scenario; the local LEOs go to an area and demand EVERYONE passing a certain building show ID, if they can't they are taken in, that is EVERYONE; race, age, gender, would not be relevant, your 10 year old coming home from school misses dinner.

How about a road block where EVERY car is stopped and the driver is given a Field Sobriety test, maybe include any passengers for public intox, turning around to avoid the traffic jam gets you and everyone in your car automatically arrested(avoiding a roadblock you MUST be doing something illegal).

Now businesses that hire illegals, should be fined out business, any illegals committing a crime should be automatically and instantly deported.
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