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Old 09-16-2011, 09:43 PM
 
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"With no end in sight to the devastating unemployment rate, the nation’s Department of Labor (DOL) is dedicating nearly $11 million to foreign-language programs that help workers with “low literacy or limited English proficiency.”

"It marks the latest of many wasteful DOL initiatives aimed at helping Latinos (the feds’ code for illegal immigrants) working in the United States. Since President Obama appointed renowned open borders advocate Hilda Solis to head the agency, the former California congresswoman has dedicated vast resources to the cause".

U.S. Spends $10.7 Mil To Train (http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2011/sep/u-s-spends-10-7-mil-train-low-literacy-latinos - broken link)
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Old 09-16-2011, 10:37 PM
 
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This whole thing makes me sick. I think about it and I just want to puke.
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Old 09-16-2011, 10:42 PM
 
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This whole thing makes me sick. I think about it and I just want to puke.
Really? You know people are dying and ****, right? Like, tonight people are being murdered and dying of cancer or in car crashes or in terrible, pointless wars and stuff.

This is 10 million bucks (like a few cents per person) so that people can speak English a little more effectively. If this makes you want to puke, you might want to give up all your worldly possessions and start over as a monk or something, because your life so far has resulted in some sort of moral hurricane.
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Old 09-17-2011, 10:01 AM
 
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Really? You know people are dying and ****, right? Like, tonight people are being murdered and dying of cancer or in car crashes or in terrible, pointless wars and stuff.

This is 10 million bucks (like a few cents per person) so that people can speak English a little more effectively. If this makes you want to puke, you might want to give up all your worldly possessions and start over as a monk or something, because your life so far has resulted in some sort of moral hurricane.
Immigrants should have the common sense to learn the language on their own dime and not have to have the US taxpayers provide them everything.

Would you advise an American to relocate permanently to France or Germany or Spain and count on the taxpayers of those countries to provide him not only free health care but even free language classes?

If these people wished to learn English, they would have already made some effort to do so, they might simply turn the channel from Televisa to NBC or ABC. They would make some personal effort to learn the language.

We don't need indigent immigrants and then tax dollars to wipe their noses for them because they can't figure anything out on their own.
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Old 09-17-2011, 10:13 AM
 
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Immigrants should have the common sense to learn the language on their own dime and not have to have the US taxpayers provide them everything.

Would you advise an American to relocate permanently to France or Germany or Spain and count on the taxpayers of those countries to provide him not only free health care but even free language classes?

If these people wished to learn English, they would have already made some effort to do so, they might simply turn the channel from Televisa to NBC or ABC. They would make some personal effort to learn the language.

We don't need indigent immigrants and then tax dollars to wipe their noses for them because they can't figure anything out on their own.
Actually, the implication of the article was that this money is being spent to teach "illegals" our language. People who shouldn't even be in this country!
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Old 09-17-2011, 10:20 AM
 
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Immigrants should have the common sense to learn the language on their own dime and not have to have the US taxpayers provide them everything.
That has nothing to do with common sense. Here's some common sense - someone is offering language classes. You take them in order to learn it.
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Old 09-17-2011, 10:27 AM
 
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That has nothing to do with common sense. Here's some common sense - someone is offering language classes. You take them in order to learn it.
I've taken language classes but I paid for them myself. Why don't these "immigrants" pay their own way but instead expect the government to provide them yet another free handout?
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Old 09-17-2011, 10:31 AM
 
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Really? You know people are dying and ****, right? Like, tonight people are being murdered and dying of cancer or in car crashes or in terrible, pointless wars and stuff.

This is 10 million bucks (like a few cents per person) so that people can speak English a little more effectively. If this makes you want to puke, you might want to give up all your worldly possessions and start over as a monk or something, because your life so far has resulted in some sort of moral hurricane.
The US has public libraries, schools, these are places where there is already access to learning English. There are private charities that address social issues like this. Government has no role in funding this. Obviously there is demand so private industry should fill it.
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Old 09-17-2011, 10:34 AM
 
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The US has public libraries, schools, these are places where there is already access to learning English. There are private charities that address social issues like this. Government has no role in funding this. Obviously there is demand so private industry should fill it.
You've got to be kidding.

My point, of course, is not that government MUST give ten million bucks to this sort of cause. I'm simply pointing out that to be completely frothing at the mouth about this is absolutely ridiculous.
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Old 09-17-2011, 12:05 PM
 
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The US has public libraries, schools, these are places where there is already access to learning English. There are private charities that address social issues like this. Government has no role in funding this. Obviously there is demand so private industry should fill it.
Exactly.

The government should not be singling out one ethnic or group of foreigners to give them anything.

The problem with libraries for La Raza is that it's not earmarked for any particular group of foreigners. Anyone can use a library, anyone can watch a television show in English, listen to English speaking radio stations but this is millions of dollars for foreigners, while citizens go without.
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