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Old 09-21-2011, 12:21 AM
 
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Strangely, they honor him instead. I guess they don't want to believe that he was opposed to illegal immigration because he is ethnically like most illegals in our country today and his family was from Mexico although he himself was born in Arizona.
Do you know if Chavez's views on that issue changed during his life? It is plausible that one person can hold differing viewpoints, and one group likes viewpoint A that he held earlier, while another group likes viewpoint B that he held later.
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Old 09-21-2011, 01:33 AM
 
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And yet some unions will support illegals. Illegals are the ultimate scabs.
Yes, unions will allow illegal aliens union membership. They don't care who they collect dues form as long as the Democrat money laundering machine keeps rolling. Dues from illegals launders as well as anyone elses.

Look at the slogan of SEIU "Workers of the World Unite". It is all about the Marxist labor movement. Purple shirts are the new brownshirts.
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Old 09-21-2011, 06:34 AM
 
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Strangely, they honor him instead. I guess they don't want to believe that he was opposed to illegal immigration because he is ethnically like most illegals in our country today and his family was from Mexico although he himself was born in Arizona.
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Chávez and Dolores Huerta, cofounder and president of the UFW, fought the Bracero Program that existed from 1942 to 1964. Their opposition stemmed from their belief that the program undermined US workers and exploited the migrant workers. Their efforts contributed to Congress ending the Bracero Program in 1964. In 1973, the UFW was one of the first labor unions to oppose proposed employer sanctions that would have prohibited hiring undocumented immigrants. Later during the 1980s, while Chávez was still working alongside Huerta, he was key in getting the amnesty provisions into the 1986 federal immigration act.
His co-founder still supports CIR today, so it won't be that of a stretch to say that Chavez would support it too. You can still oppose illegal immigration and be a strong supporter of CIR as well.

http://www.latina.com/lifestyle/news...mmigrants-come

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Old 09-21-2011, 08:28 AM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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Just a thought here; many who support or are otherwise OK with illegal immigrants are also, politically, pro-union. Now if a union goes on strike, members and supporters will revile non-union workers cross the picket line to work.

Now explain to me how illegals who get jobs in factories and other places of business are not pretty much the same thing?
This is why the emphasis should be on prosecuting the employers who exploit both the American workers and illegals
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Old 09-21-2011, 08:40 AM
 
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His co-founder still supports CIR today, so it won't be that of a stretch to say that Chavez would support it too. You can still oppose illegal immigration and be a strong supporter of CIR as well.

Activist Dolores Huerta on Immigration Reform, the Dream Act and Why Immigrants Come to the US | Latina
I disagree. If you don't support illegal immigration then you will not seek rewards for those doing it.
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Old 09-21-2011, 02:11 PM
 
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I disagree. If you don't support illegal immigration then you will not seek rewards for those doing it.
So did Chavez support illegal immigration or not?
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Old 09-21-2011, 02:16 PM
 
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So did Chavez support illegal immigration or not?
Well he didn't initially. La Raza probably got to him and he didn't like wearing the labels of "coconut" or "vendido".
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